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Storrsy

Storrsy

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Whatever I use. It's a ridiculously small aperture to be getting gear oil in! Definitely a hot summer's day job!
 
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Jimoz

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Do you guys use copper grease on wheel nuts? I took a wheel off the forklift yesterday as needs changing and an old boy years ago taught me to copper grease but google says it's not the done thing. The nuts took some cracking with the big bar to get off.
 
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Smiffy

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Do you guys use copper grease on wheel nuts? I took a wheel off the forklift yesterday as needs changing and an old boy years ago taught me to copper grease but google says it's not the done thing. The nuts took some cracking with the big bar to get off.

Copper grease shouldn't go on wheel nuts. You can't get the correct torque rating as the torque settings given will be for dry nuts. Wet nuts need to be tighter than dry nuts.
 
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Smiffy

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If you are tightening until you fart they’ll still be tight though?!…

A misconception about torque settings is that they are there to make sure the nut is tight enough. On something like a wheel with a round bolt pattern it is also there to make sure that everything is the same tightness. If one nut is tighter than the rest or they are all different tightnesses then they will either come undone. Or overload a single stud.
Putting copperslip on wheel studs doesn't allow a consistent tightness.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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A misconception about torque settings is that they are there to make sure the nut is tight enough. On something like a wheel with a round bolt pattern it is also there to make sure that everything is the same tightness. If one nut is tighter than the rest or they are all different tightnesses then they will either come undone. Or overload a single stud.
Putting copperslip on wheel studs doesn't allow a consistent tightness.
Bang on. And after dad lost a front wheel on the M5 near keltruck late one night in the rain I've always been fastidious about it.
Insurance won the claim off quick fit! They couldn't prove it had been Torqued correctly.
Did a fair bit of damage and someone was watching over them...managed to get to hard shoulder said was one of most frightening things he'd known ...

To this day we often ponder where the wheel ended up. Hit the Armco and catapulted into the air and disappeared ! 😬
Fair drop on that section .
 
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Smiffy

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Bang on. And after dad lost a front wheel on the M5 near keltruck late one night in the rain I've always been fastidious about it.
Insurance won the claim off quick fit! They couldn't prove it had been Torqued correctly.
Did a fair bit of damage and someone was watching over them...managed to get to hard shoulder said was one of most frightening things he'd known ...

To this day we often ponder where the wheel ended up. Hit the Armco and catapulted into the air and disappeared ! 😬
Fair drop on that section .

Yeah it winds me up when the spin them on with an ugga dugga and then check with the torque wrench but the torque wrench doesn't actually turn before clicking.
There is absolutely no reason the big impact wrenches if the wheel nuts are torqued correctly. The smaller impact wrenches are more than enough
 
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Jimoz

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A misconception about torque settings is that they are there to make sure the nut is tight enough. On something like a wheel with a round bolt pattern it is also there to make sure that everything is the same tightness. If one nut is tighter than the rest or they are all different tightnesses then they will either come undone. Or overload a single stud.
Putting copperslip on wheel studs doesn't allow a consistent tightness.
Will go for dry then. Im not sure how important not overloading a wheel nut on a machine thats rusting away! but saves me getting some and can see why its important.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Yeah it winds me up when the spin them on with an ugga dugga and then check with the torque wrench but the torque wrench doesn't actually turn before clicking.
There is absolutely no reason the big impact wrenches if the wheel nuts are torqued correctly. The smaller impact wrenches are more than enough
M12 is about all you need. But TBF that's where experience comes in ...even with big windy gun you get used to the feel of just nipping it then torque up.
 
CPS

CPS

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Driving electric diggers today

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