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Maxus

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Very recently come out so there's no feedback from operators. Looks to me like a very neat little unit.

Its 83kg, only comes direct mount, and is for machines up to 2.6T. It has through ports that don't restrict flow for auxiliary attachments.

They do a 4 pipe setup with a control box wired into the cab to switch from tilt to aux.

Very interesting design that I haven't seen for the tilt function, the result being no external pipes and 286mm width.

I was also told that there will be a gripper available in the near future that weighs 27kg


 
Furniss

Furniss

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Very recently come out so there's no feedback from operators. Looks to me like a very neat little unit.

Its 83kg, only comes direct mount, and is for machines up to 2.6T. It has through ports that don't restrict flow for auxiliary attachments.

They do a 4 pipe setup with a control box wired into the cab to switch from tilt to aux.

Very interesting design that I haven't seen for the tilt function, the result being no external pipes and 286mm width.

I was also told that there will be a gripper available in the near future that weighs 27kg


Looks good that , shame about the lack of tilt, i would of gone knox for my 6t but they insisted cos its nearly 7t it had to have the model that went from 7-11t that was massive so it was a no go.
will be interested in price and feedback from users, deff an interesting unit esp if gripper is option 👍
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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someone else was doing that pendle axle type twin ram set up several years ago and was a very neat little unit, but also suffered from limited tilt due to the rigidly fixed rams - was an American maker IIRC correctly and I believe Steelwrist were marketing them for a while too but only a tilt hitch
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Storrsy

Storrsy

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someone else was doing that pendle axle type twin ram set up several years ago and was a very neat little unit, but also suffered from limited tilt due to the rigidly fixed rams - was an American maker IIRC correctly and I believe Steelwrist were marketing them for a while too but only a tilt hitch
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Pretty limited is it really. I priced up a Rototop hitch the other day (rotate only) was £8500 for a 3 tonner but that did include the rotary ports so could run attachments through it and also an incorporated hydraulic hitch . Nicely made unit but still alot of money
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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Pretty limited is it really. I priced up a Rototop hitch the other day (rotate only) was £8500 for a 3 tonner but that did include the rotary ports so could run attachments through it and also an incorporated hydraulic hitch . Nicely made unit but still alot of money
from memory it was 30 deg.s tilt either way (which is way better than zero) :giggle: - 'bout the same as the Kins above -- because the rams aren't attached at the rod end, I don't think much more is feasible as the stroke'd go beyond what is 'returnable' from more than 30 deg.s and would likely jam up, even with its opposite number doing the return push stroke - the geometry just won't allow it
 
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Maxus

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I suppose that's the big question with this unit, is 30° tilt going to cut it? There is always going going to be a compromise with any given design. It does tick quite a few boxes though.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Pretty limited is it really. I priced up a Rototop hitch the other day (rotate only) was £8500 for a 3 tonner but that did include the rotary ports so could run attachments through it and also an incorporated hydraulic hitch . Nicely made unit but still alot of money
There used to be a fair few over here of those rototop ....never see them now , nearly every machine you see is tiltrotator.
says it all
 
Furniss

Furniss

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I suppose that's the big question with this unit, is 30° tilt going to cut it? There is always going going to be a compromise with any given design. It does tick quite a few boxes though.
imho - if it was a 30° tilt bucket then not much good and in a tilty you would still miss those 15° a bit, but rotate gives you a work around doesn't it.
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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There used to be a fair few over here of those rototop ....never see them now , nearly every machine you see is tiltrotator.
says it all
Yes I can see it could be fuatrating with out the tilt. My thinking was I can't bear a machine without a thumb when I'm just doing alot of general bucket work/handling clearance etc and I thought if it could run a Rototop with a thumb then it would be a nice combo. Dealer said it wouldn't be a problem to run with a thumb in terms of durability as all encased and you'd have the spare tilt lines to run the thumb. I think the height of the Rototop would throw the geometry off though for thumb use. And could still have other attachments too which I think not going to be so easy with a basic spec engcon
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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Yes I can see it could be fuatrating with out the tilt. My thinking was I can't bear a machine without a thumb when I'm just doing alot of general bucket work/handling clearance etc and I thought if it could run a Rototop with a thumb then it would be a nice combo. Dealer said it wouldn't be a problem to run with a thumb in terms of durability as all encased and you'd have the spare tilt lines to run the thumb. I think the height of the Rototop would throw the geometry off though for thumb use. And could still have other attachments too which I think not going to be so easy with a basic spec engcon
wouldn't need the thumb as could put a grab/tongs under it;)
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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wouldn't need the thumb as could put a grab/tongs under it;)
No because the whole point of the thumb is I want to use it with a bucket doing bucket work - a grab can't do that and putting one on and off every few mins isn't practical or efficient. I think unless anyones spent a few weeks on a machine with a hydraulic thumb doing all sorts of general jobs they wouldnt understand why simply putting a grab on is either better or comparable. One is purely a grabbing tool, not having the other is like like trying to make do with your hand without a erm thumb!
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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Marttini also do a roto hitch - also do a stackable tilt/roto combi or a full tilty with a very decent build height - not sure how small they go though - not looked at their website in sooome time and appear to have changed their name to MRT
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their B20 coupling system is the lowest build height going, but obviously not a UK std. or S type
for those not familiar, the B20 effectively puts your pick ups where they'd be if directly attached to a bucket ... real 'old skool' and non reversible, but under a roto hitch or full tilty, that is of no consequence

some will recall I have a couple of B20 buckets, that I made an adaptor to pick up .. as said - puts the cheeks where they'd be if welded to the bucket - a very strong pick up
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Maxus

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someone else was doing that pendle axle type twin ram set up several years ago and was a very neat little unit, but also suffered from limited tilt due to the rigidly fixed rams - was an American maker IIRC correctly and I believe Steelwrist were marketing them for a while too but only a tilt hitch
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Yes, you are right! I've never seen it before.

 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Yes, you are right! I've never seen it before.

But because it's so limited your probably just as well keeping to a tilting grader to achieve the tilt because I think youd only really use that hitch for leveling/cambers where you'd just have a grader on anyway.
 
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Monkeybusiness

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Marttini also do a roto hitch - also do a stackable tilt/roto combi or a full tilty with a very decent build height - not sure how small they go though - not looked at their website in sooome time and appear to have changed their name to MRT
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their B20 coupling system is the lowest build height going, but obviously not a UK std. or S type
for those not familiar, the B20 effectively puts your pick ups where they'd be if directly attached to a bucket ... real 'old skool' and non reversible, but under a roto hitch or full tilty, that is of no consequence

some will recall I have a couple of B20 buckets, that I made an adaptor to pick up .. as said - puts the cheeks where they'd be if welded to the bucket - a very strong pick up
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How does that pickup lock to the bucket?
 
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Maxus

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But because it's so limited your probably just as well keeping to a tilting grader to achieve the tilt because I think youd only really use that hitch for leveling/cambers where you'd just have a grader on anyway.
Does seem that for a dedicated tilting hitch 30° is a bit limited.... its very compact though and light weight, you could run the TCX on a micro i would think
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Does seem that for a dedicated tilting hitch 30° is a bit limited.... its very compact though and light weight, you could run the TCX on a micro i would think
I dunno I think the rams would be liable for getting damaged when used in conjunction with digging down. I dont know how wide they are but would be bloody annoying having to take the whole hitch off to do some narrow trench work
 
V8Druid

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I dunno I think the rams would be liable for getting damaged when used in conjunction with digging down. I dont know how wide they are but would be bloody annoying having to take the whole hitch off to do some narrow trench work
not a lot wider than the hitch and bucket cheeks combined
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