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Stroppymonkey
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Seen at a Ford Dealership apparently.
Lancs Lad
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I rest my case
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Brendan
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Might be similar to our local Allen ford car dealership, they split the dealership and sell some Chinese jaecoo cars from another part of their motor group. The transit centre still just does ford commercials.
Those electric vans are farizon and start at 45k
Those electric vans are farizon and start at 45k
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DaveDCB
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Fiat multipla vibes….
en.wikipedia.org
Fiat Multipla - Wikipedia
CPS
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So, M.A.N it is for my next van then
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Monkeybusiness
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I thought they were ace!Fiat multipla vibes….
Fiat Multipla - Wikipedia
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Monkeybusiness
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Lancs Lad
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As said before imagine the fella who plonked the design for that on his bosses desk.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
V8, supercharged 1000bhp
this was also a Multipla ... nearly bought a camper version, mid 70's
this was also a Multipla ... nearly bought a camper version, mid 70's
JD450A
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The thing that pisses me off above all else with Leccy milk float designers is the fact they still make it look like a ICE.
With a van they could go full forward control, properly maximise the load space.... they never do.
With a van they could go full forward control, properly maximise the load space.... they never do.
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DaveDCB
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That’s because if it’s fully loaded it won’t go beyond the end of the lane and back
JD450A
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But that fucks me off too..... Leccy warehouse forklifts will last a day..... and they are stop start, literally the most energy consumptive needs.
Milkfloats too worked well for decades.
Have we lost the technology? or are we trying to maximise profits and skim on battery capacity? Lets face it a ICE van is about 1.5t.... build your chassis and cab out of aluminium and stuff underneath with batteries..... then send your low center of gravity 4wd rocket to nurburgring.....
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Smiffy
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Extra weight in forklifts is advantageous. In a van it is counter productive.
Any why are we bothering with all crap when there are upto 8 air tankers circling the gulf. And I'm sure Russia's tanks aren't euro 6
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Stroppymonkey
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Ah, but the non compliant tanks are all being phased out and replaced with EV drones
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Smiffy
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Ah, but the non compliant tanks are all being phased out and replaced with EV drones
They aren't all e.v. alot of the drones are running small engines.
And seeing as it seems to be another war for oil. I can't see the end of oil consumption coming any time soon.
Lancs Lad
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The UK is responsible for less than 1% (approximately 0.8%–1.5%) of annual global greenhouse gas emissions.
JD450A
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Depends, well placed weight is better.... Imagine the nose heavy grafter with the weight distributed better.
Leccy vehicles have there place, and in cities good leccy vehicles could be game changing.
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Smiffy
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They could be, but reality is for commercial vehicles we are further away from the answer than a lot of people are willing to admit.
Lancs Lad
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This ...and your other comment above.
We went to electric Lindes in 2008. Still got them now. Still happily do a full shift on original batteries. Electric for stuff that works. ICE for when it doesn't . Things should be used and bought on their merit...not a government mandate that isn't required.
JD450A
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I'd go a step further tbh. There is ever reason local authorities should be able to mandate.... Infact the already can, take bus lanes/chyscolpaths.
If a place has air pollution problems mandating a preference towards EV cars and vans within an area should be seen as an option. I'd also argue you should be mandating sizes..... Your EV car of 5 seats needs to be under 2.3m wide and 4.5m long for example....... Throw in a permit scheme for occasional visitors and a financial assistance scheme for those who work in the area and need to swap a vehicle out.
I'd also say that the likes of Bristol and London should be mandating within the planning framework that sites with a value of X and a working duration of Y should install mains power at the start of the project and utilise tethered plant or EV for a majority of the project..... No need for a forklift to be diesel on a site under an acre..... And cranes already are mostly leccy.
However this is about air pollution.... Not climate change. And it's important to legislate to prevent areas such as where I am from economically slitting the throats of locals to satisfy the political and ideological desires of the blow ins.
But nationally we should not be forcing, mandating or prohibiting.... Infact many places we should be subsidising to upgrade resilience.
Just my opinion.
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