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[groundworker]

Travis aggregates are so bad you won't notice the difference.

Their sharp sand looks like yard sweepings

 

[hiluxman]

I passed a water main renewal locally (Cheshire, it’ll be a United Utilities line) and the road had been dug up in various locations to access the pipe. They’d backfilled (before tarmac) with recycled mot that looks exactly like the local skip firm produce (crushed brick with bits of glass, LEGO, light fittings etc mixed in as a rule). It goes down really hard but I was surprised to see it used under a road, are there not specs for this type of buildup?

Could well be the solvent mixed recycled. Sets prity hard

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Could well be the solvent mixed recycled. Sets prity hard

It is multi-coloured brick/tiles etc - like this but with more dust (and shoes, and dolls heads, and bones, and dildos etc etc).

 

[Lancs Lad]

It is multi-coloured brick/tiles etc - like this but with more dust (and shoes, and dolls heads, and bones, and dildos etc etc).
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I got some in Surrey that had part of a flipping u bend and toilet trap. Talk about crap Smelt like it as well.

 

[Smiffy]

I passed a water main renewal locally (Cheshire, it’ll be a United Utilities line) and the road had been dug up in various locations to access the pipe. They’d backfilled (before tarmac) with recycled mot that looks exactly like the local skip firm produce (crushed brick with bits of glass, LEGO, light fittings etc mixed in as a rule). It goes down really hard but I was surprised to see it used under a road, are there not specs for this type of buildup?

A) no one checks so there is a lot of just doing what you like. Every now and then they might core sample after completion but isn't set in stone.

B) the material you describe is acceptable as capping layer, it should have subbase, usually 250mm and base(100mm-150mm) binder (60mm) wearing (40mm

Pretty common to use the capping instead of subbase as it's cheaper and do away with the base. If you read the HAUC spec this is acceptable under some circumstances, so it just gets used all the time.

 

[Bri963]

so what's opinions on this then
View attachment 79739 not the greatest looking stuff

Travis Perkins launch recycled aggregate trial with Ecoblend

Builders’ merchant piloting Ecoblend aggregate containing up to 30% recycled C&D waste

www.agg-net.com

Don’t know. Is it coming out of the ground or going in?

 

[V8Druid]

Don’t know. Is it coming out of the ground or going in?

in or on it Bri .... unless someone, somewhere has a crushed brick/concrete/crap quarry

 

[V8Druid]

or should it be in the bust thread ... which may just happen

 

[Quattromike]

The cancel culture, it’s right to drop dividends if there’s a slow down but people in it for a short buck are binning their shares in favour of others which makes it easier to topple

 

[V8Druid]

 

[Gunners]

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Do we really think that 1.5M new homes are actually going to get built in the next 4 years. (notice by the way that it was by the end of the parliament before... now 2030...)
I mean, its supply and demand - more houses avaliable mean cheaper prices. But fear not, the house builders like to protect their margin on the land they have already paid top money for. Actually, they quite like sitting on it and waiting for the house price to rise a bit more before they even start building.
The house builders wont loose here - they don't employ more than a site manager on the job anyway - everyone else is a subbie.
House builders aren't incentivised to build more at less margin. And the government has no money to setup on their own and start building the mass social housing we really need.
The market is flat, inflation still well above our tiny "growth" figure. We are in recession by another name.

 

[V8Druid]

Do we really think that 1.5M new homes are actually going to get built in the next 4 years. (notice by the way that it was by the end of the parliament before... now 2030...)
I mean, its supply and demand - more houses avaliable mean cheaper prices. But fear not, the house builders like to protect their margin on the land they have already paid top money for. Actually, they quite like sitting on it and waiting for the house price to rise a bit more before they even start building.
The house builders wont loose here - they don't employ more than a site manager on the job anyway - everyone else is a subbie.
House builders aren't incentivised to build more at less margin. And the government has no money to setup on their own and start building the mass social housing we really need.
The market is flat, inflation still well above our tiny "growth" figure. We are in recession by another name.

yeh had noticed .... not a snow ball's chance in hell, by then either, the way sh1t's going down
absolutely bang on with the dev.s too .... no way are they gonna take any hits

 

[craig]

But fear not, the house builders like to protect their margin on the land they have already paid top money for. Actually, they quite like sitting on it and waiting for the house price to rise a bit more before they even start building.

There was something on the news, here in Wales they want to start taxing unused building plots.

 

[Jimoz]

It's crazy how little labour is employed on the big sites. They actually treat it like a small job once the big civils are done. Ones I've been on its very rare plots are finished before they're sold. No sale then no work, they deffo ain't getting past the shell stage. Some months loads to go at because load of sales other months there's no work because no sales. One or 2 labourers on a site with hundreds of houses. It makes sense I was just naive.

 

[6feetdown]

There was something on the news, here in Wales they want to start taxing unused building plots.

Yeah read something too

 

[V8Druid]

https://pembrokeshire-herald.com/13...disused-land-to-unlock-stalled-housing-sites/

Wales Eyes Vacant Land Tax to Kickstart Housebuilding Boom

Wales considers a vacant land tax to tackle stalled sites and boost new homes, as ministers aim to unlock development and curb land hoarding.

www.ukpropertyaccountants.co.uk

Wales could tax disused plots of land to encourage house building

A Welsh government minister said the plans are about "getting more houses built", not raising money.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TiltyShaun]

As soon as a politician says “it is not about the money it is about changing behavior” I think of the plastic bag tax. We have changed our behavior. We know buy the plastic bag to put our rubbish in rather than reuse the free ones we where given!!
Sorry, but I can’t think of a more numb idea. The reality is the conditions need to exist for the developers to be able to SELL what they build. Yes they hold long term land banks, most of which is tied up in planning procedures or technical delays. They generally have about 3 years consented plots in front of them so they can flip around different areas depending on sales forecast.
What you need is to recreate the Thatcher revolution of a hose owning country. 9 million on benefits is not the way forward. Reward work and people will rush to own there castles.
I am fortunate to have built up a rental portfolio, but I fear for some of my tenants that will be stuck on the rental ladder forever. Create a government backed lender and help these people than pay rent but can’t save for a deposit. And it doesn’t need to be just new builds. Plenty of good older properties about. The sort with gardens and a parking space, rather than the hitches we currently call “New Buids”

 

[bobthebuilder]

From the telegraph
Perhaps the most striking and worrying statistic is that in the year to November 2025, the number of self-employed workers fell by 201,000, and the number of sole traders dropped by 295,000. Compared to pre-Covid, there are over half a million fewer self-employed people in the UK today

 

[V8Druid]

What you need is to recreate the Thatcher revolution of a hose owning country. 9 million on benefits is not the way forward. Reward work and people will rush to own there castles.
I am fortunate to have built up a rental portfolio, but I fear for some of my tenants that will be stuck on the rental ladder forever. Create a government backed lender and help these people than pay rent but can’t save for a deposit. And it doesn’t need to be just new builds. Plenty of good older properties about. The sort with gardens and a parking space, rather than the hitches we currently call “New Buids”

thought i'd put up something about the dev.s telling HMG they need to bring back the help to buy scheme or similar ... yep post #617 in this thread

 

[V8Druid]

From the telegraph
Perhaps the most striking and worrying statistic is that in the year to November 2025, the number of self-employed workers fell by 201,000, and the number of sole traders dropped by 295,000. Compared to pre-Covid, there are over half a million fewer self-employed people in the UK today

OMG !!