Check your CSCS card - it might be back to school time!

[DaveDCB]

I was adamant I was done doing exams when I left school at 16… try my very best to do a little as possible nowadays!!

 

[Simon edwards]

It is beyond me how it’s considered your competency to operate an item of construction machinery can be based on any form of written/tickbox exam even if relative to the subject let alone this random bullshit! The only way to assess someone’s ability is to see them operate the equipment.
This industry is definately screwing itself from a point of encouraging keen operatives and keeping time served productive ones in the industry,it’s a shame as it’s always been a great industry to be in with limitless opportunity for those with ambition and the right work ethic.
What will be left in a few years time when the last of the old school time served operators and tradesmen are gone does’nt look promising,basically thousands of one trick pony, spinny bucket driving,carpet cabbed “influencers” sculpting piles of sand for their imaginary fan base .
Just my opinion and I guess it keeps us old school ops in work for as long as we want it outside the ring fenced big site lunacy.

 

[Smiffy]

It is beyond me how it’s considered your competency to operate an item of construction machinery can be based on any form of written/tickbox exam even if relative to the subject let alone this random bullshit! The only way to assess someone’s ability is to see them operate the equipment.
This industry is definately screwing itself from a point of encouraging keen operatives and keeping time served productive ones in the industry,it’s a shame as it’s always been a great industry to be in with limitless opportunity for those with ambition and the right work ethic.
What will be left in a few years time when the last of the old school time served operators and tradesmen are gone does’nt look promising,basically thousands of one trick pony, spinny bucket driving,carpet cabbed “influencers” sculpting piles of sand for their imaginary fan base .
Just my opinion and I guess it keeps us old school ops in work for as long as we want it outside the ring fenced big site lunacy.

I don't think it's accross the board. Plenty of space for people who don't want to deal with this. Just not on the big sites.but then I don't think the big sites would ever attract top tradesman as they are essentially a factory.
I couldn't think of anything worse than building the same 3 houses a thousand times over.

 

[Simon edwards]

Fair point, I’m porobably a little biased against any form of assessment type thing at the minute as I’ve just had to do 3 days of cpc

 

[DaveDCB]

I’d kick anyone off my site who got in a machine and took their boots off & switched on their in-cab fairy light display!

 

[Simon edwards]

Doobins probablyoff to carpetright for samples before the 86 is delivered

 

[V8Druid]

Doobins probablyoff to carpetright for samples before the 86 is delivered

nah ... not @doobin 's scene at all ... his gear works for a living.. but he does maintain it well, fair play

 

[Smiffy]

nah ... not @doobin 's scene at all ... his gear works for a living.. but he does maintain it well, fair play

Yeah it needs to be AstroTurf.

On a serious note if anyone is ever on stable jobs the off cuts from the made to measure stable mats are the dogs danglies for making truck Matt's

 

[Furniss]

Hang on a minute ...wasnt there someone on here who carpeted out their digger ?

 

[doobin]

Doobins probablyoff to carpetright for samples before the 86 is delivered

No chance mate, it won't even get the rusty bits repainted, just Waxoyled for now!

 

[doobin]

nah ... not @doobin 's scene at all ... his gear works for a living.. but he does maintain it well, fair play

Some say worked, others say 'is abused'.

 

[Storrsy]

No chance mate, it won't even get the rusty bits repainted, just Waxoyled for now!

Yeah it still looks tidy enough to not worry. I did take a can of paint to my TB125 the other day. Basically spent a day sanding off any rust/missing paint, primed and repainted those spots and boy has it made it presentable again- and not in a 5 gallon makeover way either.

 

[Simon edwards]

Yeah it still looks tidy enough to not worry. I did take a can of paint to my TB125 the other day. Basically spent a day sanding off any rust/missing paint, primed and repainted those spots and boy has it made it presentable again- and not in a 5 gallon makeover way either.

we buy them to work them! I’ve always tried to look after my kit but they get scratched,knocked ,dirty, we are in the groundworks/earthmoving/treeworks industry,it’s tough on your machines and your body( take a look at your hands!).
The day my new 3cx was delivered( something I never imagined would happen) ,one of my blokes had 5 minutes in it and put two bloody great scores up the boom with the bucket, I’ve added to them since,lumps of concrete and big stumps do’nt like paintwork!

 

[Smiffy]

we buy them to work them! I’ve always tried to look after my kit but they get scratched,knocked ,dirty, we are in the groundworks/earthmoving/treeworks industry,it’s tough on your machines and your body( take a look at your hands!).
The day my new 3cx was delivered( something I never imagined would happen) ,one of my blokes had 5 minutes in it and put two bloody great scores up the boom with the bucket, I’ve added to them since,lumps of concrete and big stumps do’nt like paintwork!

Not so much about the paint work but my dad always drummed into me that you should fix all the little things as soon as the go wrong.
Talking dash light bulbs. Seat sponges joystick gaiters. And I suppose paint flaking could go with this.
If you let the little things build up then it becomes a mental block to fix them all in one go and you start being less caring about the machine/vehicle. And then if something big happens you are less inclined to fix it, and just get shot which might not be the best financial decision.
Seeing machines come on and off site to multiple drivers on a daily basis. It is also very apparent that the better a machine is maintained the better drivers will look after it. They will occasionally grease a decent machine but never seen a grease gun near a tired machine.

 

[Simon edwards]

Your dad was bang on,my old Terex dumper is nearly20 yearsold ,we look after it,clean it a bit,always fix whatever needs fixing,reckon it will do ten more years easy.All the kit is treated the same way,with respect but not pampered if you like!I have one machine on self drive,a very tidy old Manitou ,financially it is worthwhile,but the way it is treated boils my piss to be honest!

 

[Vinpetrol]

It is beyond me how it’s considered your competency to operate an item of construction machinery can be based on any form of written/tickbox exam even if relative to the subject let alone this random bullshit! The only way to assess someone’s ability is to see them operate the equipment.
This industry is definately screwing itself from a point of encouraging keen operatives and keeping time served productive ones in the industry,it’s a shame as it’s always been a great industry to be in with limitless opportunity for those with ambition and the right work ethic.
What will be left in a few years time when the last of the old school time served operators and tradesmen are gone does’nt look promising,basically thousands of one trick pony, spinny bucket driving,carpet cabbed “influencers” sculpting piles of sand for their imaginary fan base .
Just my opinion and I guess it keeps us old school ops in work for as long as we want it outside the ring fenced big site lunacy.

I couldn’t of put this better myself , what’s missing in the industry is the space for guys to learn to drive a digger and then learn through experience to look at a job and work Out how to do every part of it in an order that leaves them tidying up as they track out the gate . No one wearing slippers is going to do that . I was taught get out of your cab for a look at things from the other direction every now and then .
It’s not about how good you are at controlling the digger , it’s about the ability to do a complete job where the digger is only one tool that you use to achieve it .

 

[doobin]

I couldn’t of put this better myself , what’s missing in the industry is the space for guys to learn to drive a digger and then learn through experience to look at a job and work Out how to do every part of it in an order that leaves them tidying up as they track out the gate . No one wearing slippers is going to do that . I was taught get out of your cab for a look at things from the other direction every now and then .
It’s not about how good you are at controlling the digger , it’s about the ability to do a complete job where the digger is only one tool that you use to achieve it .

 

[V8Druid]

https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/citb-sets-out-consensus-consultation-dates

really ...... previous research should inform them adequately about the regard they're held with -- or should that read contempt

CITB consultation deferred

The Construction Industry Training has pushed back the start of its statutory consensus process by five weeks.

www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

 

[Bri963]

How much for CPCS pipe pusher, tracked, all weights 420 degree slew?

 

[V8Druid]

New plant operator school opens in London

London’s only dedicated training facility for construction vehicles has opened in Earls Court.

www.theconstructionindex.co.uk

" Places for London has identified a specific need for 6,200 plant operatives across the capital by 2027.

The Green Plant Academy has been designed to specialise in training on zero-emission equipment, providing career development while also helping the construction industry further transition to cleaner ways of working and ultimately address the climate emergency. "

What ****ing "emergency" FFS???