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bobthebuilder
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why no pvs ?
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
about what we run the house at in the day - 16.5/17C on the boiler thermo (wireless, mobile - 14C overnight) so that'd work for us ..... but WTF did it cost to install ? (compared to say a £6k boiler)
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Lancs Lad
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Very interesting to hear how it goes, my installer reckoned the GSHP were better.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
would be my choice if I ABSOLUTELY had to - vertically if I could
Lancs Lad
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Gotta remember though....whole thing is utter b@llocks ..it's a solution to problem that doesn't exist.
Show me how if even everyone in UK turned off their gas boilers tonight how life would improve or we'd save the planet.
The east must be laughing their socks off at us while they mass produce the energy saving crap we apparently need and power their huge factory's of forced labour by coal power stations
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It's honestly utterly beyond belief when you stand back and look at it
Show me how if even everyone in UK turned off their gas boilers tonight how life would improve or we'd save the planet.
The east must be laughing their socks off at us while they mass produce the energy saving crap we apparently need and power their huge factory's of forced labour by coal power stations
...It's honestly utterly beyond belief when you stand back and look at it
Vinpetrol
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Cost , I needed one or the other and gshp made more sense . I’ve a couple of family members have them and also been involved with some new builds that fitted them and most report not enough return for investment . Also I have a slate roof . It’s an aesthetic part of the house so I didn’t want to cover it with PVs . I am though planning to future proof for them on a 45 degree wood shed roof in case it becomes viable for me
Vinpetrol
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Couldn’t agree more !Gotta remember though....whole thing is utter b@llocks ..it's a solution to problem that doesn't exist.
Show me how if even everyone in UK turned off their gas boilers tonight how life would improve or we'd save the planet.
The east must be laughing their socks off at us while they mass produce the energy saving crap we apparently need and power their huge factory's of forced labour by coal power stations
It's honestly utterly beyond belief when you stand back and look at it
Vinpetrol
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I bet you wouldn’t go vertically buddy !! I’m working on a house just now that has 3 bore holes for loops that are live and 2 more bore holes that failed . The cost was eye watering and a pure gamble according to the client . You have enough plant to put loops in horizontally as well !!!would be my choice if I ABSOLUTELY had to - vertically if I could
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
my black shed roof is SSE orientation and 24' x 8' - have considered some on there, but don't think it'd produce enough over that area to make it viable or worth the effort ??
when/IF I ever get a shed up, I have considered at length, re-orientating the roof pitch to face south (would currently be east facing, if it went up as my current thoughts are) .. that'd be well worth covering, but the battery investment requirement would be substantial to make it worthwhile and'd be a shallow pitch sadly ... plus - would i live long enough to see a return on the costs
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
agreed and yeh the bore holes'd not be cheap, unless i got Rory up here with his drill rig and fed him all the toast and honey he could get down his gullet
having the area of ground to put it in'd be the issue ... you've all seen what came out of the ground, creating my patch
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Monkeybusiness
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I don’t know why they don’t make solar panels that interlock and subsequently form a weatherproof roof structure - agri and industrial buildings could be designed so-as to incorporate solar arrays as the roof structure itself.my black shed roof is SSE orientation and 24' x 8' - have considered some on there, but don't think it'd produce enough over that area to make it viable or worth the effort ??
when/IF I ever get a shed up, I have considered at length, re-orientating the roof pitch to face south (would currently be east facing, if it went up as my current thoughts are) .. that'd be well worth covering, but the battery investment requirement would be substantial to make it worthwhile and'd be a shallow pitch sadly ... plus - would i live long enough to see a return on the costs
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
now that would be brilliant ----- but waaaay too sensible
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Brendan
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When were on holiday last year the whole car park had pv as a large carport affair, thought it was pretty smart use of space
TiltyShaun
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On the jobs I have been involved with, the clients are happy with ground source.
Gecko
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I've thought the same - a patchwork of panels covering half a roof always has a gheto look about it, where as PV's running edge to edge has a clean look to it. Easier to achieve on a new build obviously, but there are plenty of those.
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TiltyShaun
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I can’t remember what temperature the ground source water comes in at. But I can remember it is well above freezing when the air temperature is well below. What people don’t seem to understand with air source is that the colder it gets, the less efficient it becomes. So when it is minus temperatures outside and you want 20 plus inside, you need a lot of electricity of make it happen. And anyone using electricity to heat anything is going to find it hard going on the wallet!!
We do have an air source heat pump on our swimming pool. It works very well as we only heat the pool during the summer. If the air is 20 degrees, we run the pump. We have 4kw of PV on the roof that feed the pump. It also has 4 solar thermal panels that heat the pool as well.
Our main roof also has 2 thermal solar panels that provide most of our domestic hot water from April to October. No, I don’t do it to save the planet, I do it to save my wallet. The solar thermal panels have all been sourced and installed by me which helped reduce the cost.
We do have an air source heat pump on our swimming pool. It works very well as we only heat the pool during the summer. If the air is 20 degrees, we run the pump. We have 4kw of PV on the roof that feed the pump. It also has 4 solar thermal panels that heat the pool as well.
Our main roof also has 2 thermal solar panels that provide most of our domestic hot water from April to October. No, I don’t do it to save the planet, I do it to save my wallet. The solar thermal panels have all been sourced and installed by me which helped reduce the cost.
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LKSF
Pennine Hillbilly
They've been on the market for decades.
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LKSF
Pennine Hillbilly
The Chinese are one of the Worlds leading countries in using renewables, it's home to the Worlds biggest Solar farm and many other projects which would open your eyes really wide at the huge scale of them.Gotta remember though....whole thing is utter b@llocks ..it's a solution to problem that doesn't exist.
Show me how if even everyone in UK turned off their gas boilers tonight how life would improve or we'd save the planet.
The east must be laughing their socks off at us while they mass produce the energy saving crap we apparently need and power their huge factory's of forced labour by coal power stations
It's honestly utterly beyond belief when you stand back and look at it
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LKSF
Pennine Hillbilly
Similar to me, asked the Sparky if it was all dead on a rip-out and got the all clear. Put my side cutters through a cable and got such a flash I saw lots of coloured lights for quite a while.
You learn. Now I carry the tools to test things myself.
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