Tilting buckets.

Storrsy

Storrsy

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it wouldn't .... in default position it'll be supplying the 'original' service -- in switched/activated it'll be supplying your new service in whichever direction is selected - P to A, B to T or P to B, A to T
or of course you can default to your new service and switch to the original .. depends which is gonna get the most use, or you favour ... can be either momentary or latched switching

Something like this on each line?
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Storrsy

Storrsy

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yep ... that's cheap for them .... but as said earlier, what if you want to use the thumb and bucket simultaneously any time .. but for either or .. a simple fix (y)
I doubt I'd use the thumb much with tilt bucket tbh. I know I'm being a bit cheap going down this road but think it will serve the purpose I need.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I doubt I'd use the thumb much with tilt bucket tbh. I know I'm being a bit cheap going down this road but think it will serve the purpose I need.
yep, it's perfectly adequate as a simple change over and not a lot of bucks to achieve virtually instantly .... if you found otherwise it'd not be a big step up to a solenoid op. set up with either a 6 x 2 or two 3 x 1s to replace the mechanically operated valves ... crack on with the lever op. and if you find a need to go electrical, it'd not be a huge loss financially to change
 
Mogman

Mogman

What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
You would only need one valve the other would be a T connector,
so when the thumb is turned off the oil will go through the T therefore keeping the thumb open while still working the tilt bucket
 
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Stroppymonkey

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You would only need one valve the other would be a T connector,
so when the thumb is turned off the oil will go through the T therefore keeping the thumb open while still working the tilt bucket
If you set it up right and keep a boathook in the cab you should be able to swap it over without getting out of the seat :) That would be pretty hi tech for our part of the world!
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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If you set it up right and keep a boathook in the cab you should be able to swap it over without getting out of the seat :) That would be pretty hi tech for our part of the world!
Already do something similar when it's raining- offset the arm and being the dipper right around and I can change the bucket without getting out the can easily enough!
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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You would only need one valve the other would be a T connector,
so when the thumb is turned off the oil will go through the T therefore keeping the thumb open while still working the tilt bucket
I can't get my head around this. How can you get away with only a T valve on the other side- surely the line when pressurised will operate the thumb when your trying to operate the tilt instead (or vice versa).
 
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Stroppymonkey

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I can't get my head around this. How can you get away with only a T valve on the other side- surely the line when pressurised will operate the thumb when your trying to operate the tilt instead (or vice versa).
My plumbing knowledge suggests that you need to complete the circuit for the thumb to operate unwanted. So a single T should work okay.
 
CPS

CPS

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I can't get my head around this. How can you get away with only a T valve on the other side- surely the line when pressurised will operate the thumb when your trying to operate the tilt instead (or vice versa).

My plumbing knowledge suggests that you need to complete the circuit for the thumb to operate unwanted. So a single T should work okay.
It would work too yea
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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My plumbing knowledge suggests that you need to complete the circuit for the thumb to operate unwanted. So a single T should work okay.
Still confused. Right so we have line A and line B.its Double acting off course so Line A will tilt bucket one way (or close thumb if valve is switched) line B will tilt bucket other way (or open thumb if valve is switched). So lets say Line As valve is switched to tilt bucket but line Bs is just Tee'd surely when I pressurise line B the thumb will open untill fully extended at which point the fluid will then go into tilting the bucket, which wont be useable because the now open thumb will be in the way!? Or have I got this completely wrong?
 
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Monkeybusiness

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Still confused. Right so we have line A and line B.its Double acting off course so Line A will tilt bucket one way (or close thumb if valve is switched) line B will tilt bucket other way (or open thumb if valve is switched). So lets say Line As valve is switched to tilt bucket but line Bs is just Tee'd surely when I pressurise line B the thumb will open untill fully extended at which point the fluid will then go into tilting the bucket, which wont be useable because the now open thumb will be in the way!? Or have I got this completely wrong?
Right idea but wrong way round - the line that pins the thumb back to the dipper doesn’t need a tap as the thumb is dead ending out of the way when that line is pressurised for tilt.
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Ah now it all comes clear. Sometimes I don't see the wood for the trees😁
But then I wouldnt be able to use the thumb with just the tilt bucket (as just a bucket not tilting) because the tee would then operate the tilt one way whilst I'm trying to use the thumb
 
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Monkeybusiness

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But then I wouldnt be able to use the thumb with just the tilt bucket (as just a bucket not tilting) because the tee would then operate the tilt one way whilst I'm trying to use the thumb
Yeah, you’d need 2x taps if you want to use the thumb with the tilt bucket locked off.
 
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