Twin or tri axle trailer?

[Russell]

I'm sure there has been a thread on this but i can't find it.
I want a 16 foot flat bed trailer mostly to carry Landrovers/ larger vehicles around 2-2.5 ton but also if I want to take a load of work stuff in one go.
The most the gh1054 can carry really is digger, dumper and wacker.
I will probably go for a ifor lm167 because I prefer the idea of leaf springs. I'm thinking maybe a tri-axle. Are they more stable with a big high up load on?
I once towed a lm146 twin axle with a small transit on and it wasn't much fun. It only just fit on so I couldn't adjust it and wagged like mad over 40-50mph. I would like to avoid that if possible.

 

[V8Druid]

I'm sure there has been a thread on this but i can't find it.
I want a 16 foot flat bed trailer mostly to carry Landrovers/ larger vehicles around 2-2.5 ton but also if I want to take a load of work stuff in one go.
The most the gh1054 can carry really is digger, dumper and wacker.
I will probably go for a ifor lm167 because I prefer the idea of leaf springs. I'm thinking maybe a tri-axle. Are they more stable with a big high up load on?
I once towed a lm146 twin axle with a small transit on and it wasn't much fun. It only just fit on so I couldn't adjust it and wagged like mad over 40-50mph. I would like to avoid that if possible.

tri axle reduces payload and needs a good heavy tow barge to 'boss' it about ... do tow like an arrow though

 

[Storrsy]

At 16ft I'd go tri I think. Especially carrying vehicles that are quite long it's not always easy to get the balance right. Less than that and I'd stick to duals.

 

[doobin]

My lm166 twin axle likes to wiggle if you don’t get enough nose weight.

 

[Stroppymonkey]

One thing I miss is a decent flatbed. Sold my LM126. Turned my LM105 into a crane trailer. Currently only have a TT2515 . A 16footer would be handy for stuff, and the odd broken down van recovery as well. I’d go Tri I think as you can get away with less perfect load distribution.

 

[Storrsy]

I have to say despite having had many ifors over the years I'd not go for another of their flatbeds again. They haven't changed anything about them since the 90s . Rattly, s**t tye down points, appalling lights and don't even get me started on the ramps- or at least the means to deploy then. I really like the Nugent ones- as all the tie down points are internal so can strap a machine down (properly) without having to take the sides off.

 

[Russell]

Bloody expensive though. The nugent flat beds are all £6000+++ .

 

[DaveDCB]

Bloody expensive though. The nugent flat beds are all £6000+++ .

Really? I was looking at their tippers and they were 6500 for the biggest one they do?

 

[Storrsy]

Bloody expensive though. The nugent flat beds are all £6000+++ .

Look around. Local dealer was selling new ones (last year's stock though) 12ft and £14ft were both well under £4k

 

[Stroppymonkey]

I have to say despite having had many ifors over the years I'd not go for another of their flatbeds again. They haven't changed anything about them since the 90s . Rattly, s**t tye down points, appalling lights and don't even get me started on the ramps- or at least the means to deploy then. I really like the Nugent ones- as all the tie down points are internal so can strap a machine down (properly) without having to take the sides off.

I had a really good poke around one at Cornwall Show a few years ago. Was very impressed till I saw the price.

 

[Storrsy]

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Look at the tie down points- so much better than ifor. This one is without sides but I'll bet you could find them with sides for similar money with a bit of hunt around.

 

[Lancs Lad]

It's been gone over a lot this topic...but I would be very interested to see how they tow.
Yes we know all of ifors cockups....not least the horrific rear ramp securing sh"te...ripped mine off last weekend haven't decided on an alternative and they didn't fly out on a motorway trip since .

Anyway my point being is imo ifors still tow so darned well...my 146 if loaded correctly is honestly a dream to tow....v interesting to see how Nugents tow.
I've got a 10ft indie that's very very similar to Ifor in design etc...but it's utterly crap to tow loaded and empty.
And the ifor knott hitches are the best

 

[JerryRtilt]

It's been gone over a lot this topic...but I would be very interested to see how they tow.
Yes we know all of ifors cockups....not least the horrific rear ramp securing sh"te...ripped mine off last weekend haven't decided on an alternative and they didn't fly out on a motorway trip since .

Anyway my point being is imo ifors still tow so darned well...my 146 if loaded correctly is honestly a dream to tow....v interesting to see how Nugents tow.
I've got a 10ft indie that's very very similar to Ifor in design etc...but it's utterly crap to tow loaded and empty.
And the ifor knott hitches are the best

I’d love to know if Nugents ‘Dual drive’ spring system actually makes any difference and stops the springs clattering.
If I didn’t need every ounce of payload I’d be interested to try one as Ifors lack of refinement bugs me

 

[DaveDCB]

Nugent dealer is near me… they come past all the time, the Nugents are silent on the road ifors are loud rattling things - even more so when they drive past! He also runs a fencing business too, used to have all ifor but obviously swapped to Nugent but said there is a genuine improvement over the ifor

 

[Lancs Lad]

Tbf I do find the ifor makes dumb pedestrians dive into the hedge on the lanes....announces your presence nicely.

 

[Storrsy]

Nugent dealer is near me… they come past all the time, the Nugents are silent on the road ifors are loud rattling things - even more so when they drive past! He also runs a fencing business too, used to have all ifor but obviously swapped to Nugent but said there is a genuine improvement over the ifor

I've heard the same. Contractor I know runs the tippers- says they're awesome. Had plenty of ifors too knows what's he's comparing

I'm pissed off. Local dealer was selling old stock recently and had a 12ft with side new for £3300 plus vat- idiot here didn't bite and now they're gone

 

[DaveDCB]

Tbf I do find the ifor makes dumb pedestrians dive into the hedge on the lanes....announces your presence nicely.

If anything they remind you they are still attached!

 

[JoeS]

I enjoy my 16ft tri axle, yes it eats into legal load capacity a bit..But it follows you like its on rails, you don't need to be as fussy where exactly the weight goes on the trailer, if you are pushing the limits of weight it is a damn sight safer than a twin doing it and last but certainly not least if i need to stop in a hurry even fully load the extra axle braking makes a hell of a difference to the 60-0 time

 

[Stroppymonkey]

If anything they remind you they are still attached!

Mine fell off the other day. First thing I noticed was the silence. Breakaway cable did its job.
100% user error, was chatting to someone and just dropped it on the ball without doing the lift check.

 

[V8Druid]

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Mine fell off the other day. First thing I noticed was the silence. Breakaway cable did its job.
100% user error, was chatting to someone and just dropped it on the ball without doing the lift check.

fair play for admitting to it