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Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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on a servo circuit :oops:
It just says pump pressure , it’s a reading in the menu that lets me see what the pump pressure is . It sits at 44 when idling and goes up to 380ish when working it hard .
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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I found this in part of the hydraulic schematic . I don’t fully understand the drawing but would I be right to assume that V15 solenoid might be effecting my jacks ?
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CPS

CPS

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Looking at it again id say it only blocks the flow to that jack leg.
Can you lift the blade and jack leg together
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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Looking at it again id say it only blocks the flow to that jack leg.
Can you lift the blade and jack leg together
Yes . It has buttons for either leg or the blade but I can also activate them all together
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
It just says pump pressure , it’s a reading in the menu that lets me see what the pump pressure is . It sits at 44 when idling and goes up to 380ish when working it hard .
that's main VD pump ... should have a servo pump some where
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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ascertain the spec for the servo circuit Vin ..... Trax once told me that more than 35 bar max was extremely unusual on any machine ... at the end of the day those lines are beside your legs - hence the low (as poss) pressure in servo systems .. if it's over pressuring it could explain the leak
On parts of the hydraulic drawing it gives pressures like that at certain valves . I don’t think the resting pump pressure is necessarily the same as the pilot pressure . I could be wrong though
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Yes . It has buttons for either leg or the blade but I can also activate them all together
so the buttons are all that controls the jacks/blade - no prop. control? - just stab a button?? or is H and J a prop. feed from say a 2 way lever?
 
CPS

CPS

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When none of those solenoids are powered up the blade and jacks will work together.
When v17 is powered only the legs will operate.
When v15 is powered only the right jack will operate etc
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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so the buttons are all that controls the jacks/blade - no prop. control? - just stab a button?? or is H and J a prop. feed from say a 2 way lever?
You select what blade /jacks you want to work by pressing their individual buttons then you press a button on front of rh control lever and this changes the rh control boom function to blade / jack function .
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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When none of those solenoids are powered up the blade and jacks will work together.
When v17 is powered only the legs will operate.
When v15 is powered only the right jack will operate etc
Seems a coincidence though that V15 solenoid is leaking and looks damaged and I get the jacks creeping out at the same time . Is it worth changing V15 and see if it has an effect ?
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
You select what blade /jacks you want to work by pressing their individual buttons then you press a button on front of rh control lever and this changes the rh control boom function to blade / jack function .
so the RH stick provides H & J prop feeds .. 15 and 16 control flow to each leg, 17 to the blade
J feeds the down circuit on the legs and up circuit on the blade
H feeds the down on the blade and the up on the legs
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Seems a coincidence though that V15 solenoid is leaking and looks damaged and I get the jacks creeping out at the same time . Is it worth changing V15 and see if it has an effect ?
15 is down LH leg cylinder only
16 controls the RH down only
both fed by the J circuit
 
CPS

CPS

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15 is down LH leg cylinder only
16 controls the RH down only
both fed by the J circuit
15 and 16 will block off the return when activated also... so locking out which ever circuit its in
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
it's almost the same set up as mine .. buttons for L / R legs and another for the blade ....
mine differs in that mine are supplied by a dedicated servo controlled lever ...
not a change over on the main sticks ..
however, all the solenoid valves are down stairs under the chassis, below the ring gear and therefore below the rotary coupling ..
that way it only has the two prop lines (the equivalent of your H & J) going through the rotary ...
get yer head under there Vin and see where the pipes trace back to from the blade/legs
if all those control lines (and solenoids are 'upstairs' you'd have an additional 6 lines, going through the rotary - and I doubt you have
my money's on those all being down stairs in the chassis
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
15 and 16 will block off the return when activated also... so locking out which ever circuit its in
nope ...... the flow direction is determined by H & J prop. circuits from the RH stick when the changeover switch is activated to feed the legs/blade circuits ....
the solenoid merely determine which circuit is active
the circuit dia. shows dual directional flow at the solenoids
my money's on 15, 16 & 17 being down stairs in the chassis
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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it's almost the same set up as mine .. buttons for L / R legs and another for the blade ....
mine differs in that mine are supplied by a dedicated servo controlled lever ...
not a change over on the main sticks ..
however, all the solenoid valves are down stairs under the chassis, below the ring gear and therefore below the rotary coupling ..
that way it only has the two prop lines (the equivalent of your H & J) going through the rotary ...
get yer head under there Vin and see where the pipes trace back to from the blade/legs
if all those control lines (and solenoids are 'upstairs' you'd have an additional 6 lines, going through the rotary - and I doubt you have
my money's on those all being down stairs in the chassis
I know what you’re saying but I think the wee number 3 on the drawing is the rotary coupling . There are some valves underneath though , will need to get some pics tomorrow .
I’m assuming that V15 is on the top half off machine though as the cable going into the valve that is leaking has Id tag on it


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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I know what you’re saying but I think the wee number 3 on the drawing is the rotary coupling . There are some valves underneath though , will need to get some pics tomorrow .
I’m assuming that V15 is on the top half off machine though as the cable going into the valve that is leaking has Id tag on it


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fair assumption .. now you tell me :giggle: .. that must be some rotary coupling ... however .. my premise on how it's plumbed remains the same ... H & J are your prop. feeds from the RH stick and the solenoids merely control the flow to each circuit (via the rotary :oops: which'd need an additional 4 galleries to mine to achieve that) ...
are you sure '03' is the rotary -- that schematic shows a huge number of '03' galleries :unsure:
 
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