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6feetdown
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Sounds good way of tidying it up
hiluxman
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Definitely, it's the future
hiluxman
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
doobin
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Scrub pulling was going great, and I was remarking to myself how quick the m1 was shifting the gear. He’d moved a whole days worth from the weekend in three hours and was catching up with me.
doobin
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Then the steering died! Called m1, most likely the ram thread. No time to wait for their service guy so first thing this morning I pulled it and got it back to the warm of the workshop. By god it was cold. No way I could be a mechanic in one of those frozen mines!
Convinced it to go back over the last three threads. Grooved it out for weld. Degreased and applied loctite 641. Reassembled and welded, then ground flat to about where the stick out was prior. Fingers crossed…
All they were going to go was get it welded so the loctite is a bonus. At least it’s only a ram.
Convinced it to go back over the last three threads. Grooved it out for weld. Degreased and applied loctite 641. Reassembled and welded, then ground flat to about where the stick out was prior. Fingers crossed…
All they were going to go was get it welded so the loctite is a bonus. At least it’s only a ram.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
pretty sh1t job if the thread on the end of that rod was ****ed in the time you've owned it Doob
QC not up to much .... I hope they are sending you a new one .. like yesterday
doobin
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What could cause it?pretty sh1t job if the thread on the end of that rod was ****ed in the time you've owned it Doob
doobin
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This e27 is a brilliant machine for this kind of work. You be no quicker at al with a larger machine. It’s all about being surgical- loose the gorse and roots as much as possible. Save the heather if you can. Plenty of bate ground being created too, a pass from the cut and collect and this time next year there will be a carpet of young heather here.
We are renewing the firebreaks but with a conservation side benefit. Got someone from Surrey county council coming for a look tomorrow too.
We are renewing the firebreaks but with a conservation side benefit. Got someone from Surrey county council coming for a look tomorrow too.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
poor manufacturing'd be my first guess ... under/over size threading on rod and/or piston, producing a loose thread contacting on just the ridge of the cut, rather than the whole face and maybe a lack of a through pin or grub screw wouldn't help
whatever it is/was, they need to be sending you a new one, as that one is clearly not fit for purpose/up to spec. (TBH I'd go to the trouble of stripping and checking a new one for 'thread wobble' ) and if there is any - straight back - QC is not up to the job and you will be having the exact same issue again soon .... if they can't supply a well made unit, get them to agree to paying for one made properly
.... let's hope the rest of the rams are up to spec. and that that is just a poor one off
doobin
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You don’t think the extra leverage from the boom and working it hard could cause it? It takes a lot more punishment than a dumper of the same size! I’m thinking shock loading.poor manufacturing'd be my first guess ... under/over size threading on rod and/or piston, producing a loose thread contacting on just the ridge of the cut, rather than the whole face and maybe a lack of a through pin or grub screw wouldn't help
whatever it is/was, they need to be sending you a new one, as that one is clearly not fit for purpose/up to spec. (TBH I'd go to the trouble of stripping and checking a new one for 'thread wobble' ) and if there is any - straight back - QC is not up to the job and you will be having the exact same issue again soon .... if they can't supply a well made unit, get them to agree to paying for one made properly
It had a good chamfer on the ram and a matching one on the gland- went back together tight on the remaining threads.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
if the threads are correctly machined and ideally a lock screw, or through pin installed, it should not occur .... should be no movement in the threads to enable wear whatsoever ... a 'wobbly thread', from over size nut or undersize rod will make it fail prematurely as, as said the threads are only bearing on the peak of the cut thread and not the whole face as intended/designed to ... no way should you have had that sort of failure with the period of time you have owned it.
it may well lock down onto the chamfers, but could still only be being held there by the thread peaks and not faces
.... not fit for.... you want a new one - and again as said, ideally inspect before fittingremember -- this takes as much grief in the close operation as the extend and the closure is totally reliant on a good, tight, correctly machined thread
pettsy
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I obviously understand welding it to get you back up and running, but is that not a safety issue that they should be investigating more seriously? If you were driving along and steering stopped responding you could be in a world of pain pretty quickly!
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Monkeybusiness
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Did they diagnose the problem quickly over the phone? (Ie are you not the first to experience this issue?)
doobin
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Yes. They said they’d get the local guy to weld it, but he wasn’t answering the phone so I sorted it.
Canal Navvy
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Presumably they are sending you a replacement ram as it would be impossible to change the rod seals now 
doobin
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Well we got a day out of it! At least I can say my weld had good penetration!
They’re sending me a new one. Tried to say that it was down to abuse, but I said it never happens on a site dumper (which commonly has retards driving) does it? Then sent them a link to this thread and @V8Druid s comments.
I don’t want to be the sort that threatens trial by social media but what else can you do these days? I’m the first to sing it’s praises, it’s a bloody brilliant machine but it’s had an awful lot go wrong with it that just shouldn’t.
Anyway for tomorrow I’ve just welded the gland both sides. Won’t move now but it will most likely contact the weld at the end of the stroke, which long term would lead to bits flaking off. Will change the ram when the new one arrives Monday.
They’re sending me a new one. Tried to say that it was down to abuse, but I said it never happens on a site dumper (which commonly has retards driving) does it? Then sent them a link to this thread and @V8Druid s comments.
I don’t want to be the sort that threatens trial by social media but what else can you do these days? I’m the first to sing it’s praises, it’s a bloody brilliant machine but it’s had an awful lot go wrong with it that just shouldn’t.
Anyway for tomorrow I’ve just welded the gland both sides. Won’t move now but it will most likely contact the weld at the end of the stroke, which long term would lead to bits flaking off. Will change the ram when the new one arrives Monday.
Lancs Lad
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Ratchet straps now?
Furniss
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Lovely sunny day and the machine did pretty much the whole job from this one spot, hole,trenches,soakaway,aggregates in and in 2/3rds the time it would of taken us previously !!
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