Tipping trailer

[William127]

I used to have steel ramps on the LM126. Heavy. Got 6ft and 8ft ally ramps now and very easy, but quite slippy sometimes and think they have a weight limit.

I need to get myself a decent pair of 8ft+ ally ramps for putting machines on the back of my truck etc.
I had an arrangement that I could borrow my mates anytime (we work out of 2 yards on the same farm) as he hardly used them. Then he remembered they weren't actually his when the actual owner asked for them back after 2 years

 

[Brendan]

I used to have steel ramps on the LM126. Heavy. Got 6ft and 8ft ally ramps now and very easy, but quite slippy sometimes and think they have a weight limit.

My Brian James are deadly in the wet, wouldnt like to be doing the same at a higher height, plus for some reason what ever "special person" designed them, needs an award for clown of the year, not only are the stored upside down but also back to front, so every time you need them, they have to be flipped over and spun around

 

[Stroppymonkey]

I used to tow my 1.5 ton kubota in a 10x5 ifor tipper, towed nice enough but it was behind my 2.4 110 HD Defender, most planted tow car I've had. That truck and trailer combo was quite happy fully loaded at the speed limit and very maneuverable.
10×5 is a fantastic size for a general purpose trailer, I managed to pick up a brand new ifor non tipper 10 x 5 with sides for £2400 just before the new prices shot up, I'd not let it go for a penny less.

The ramps are a pain and bloody heavy!
Am I the only one that uses an old number plate to hold the retainer up as I pull them out the holder? Makes it so much easier!

We had a LM105 that got a lot of use, wore a set of tyres out on it in 2 years. Then we got bored and bob tailed it into a LM805 with a crane on the back. Its a very nice width trailer.

 

[Giles]

Slipped my 1 ton dumper off wet ally ramps on my tt3621 12x6 tipper. Rushing and chucking it down, got some grip tape to add to them. Didn't have a digger there but had 3 ton dumper to lift it with

 

[William127]

We had a LM105 that got a lot of use, wore a set of tyres out on it in 2 years. Then we got bored and bob tailed it into a LM805 with a crane on the back. Its a very nice width trailer.

Sounds handy
Selling my tipping 10x5 was probably one of the worse business decisions I've ever made! I remember one time I left it hitched up to the defender, my only vehicle at the time, for 2 weeks straight
Sold it to fund an old hilux tipper with a 200tdi engine, big wheels, lift and tubular winch bumper. It was cool as f***, amazing offroad but there was something not right in the engine conversion as it ate gearboxes. Ended up selling it when I realised how rotten the sills were. By which time the price of trailers had gone through the roof....

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Sounds handy
Selling my tipping 10x5 was probably one of the worse business decisions I've ever made! Sold it to fund an old hilux tipper with a 200tdi engine, big wheels, lift and tubular winch bumper. It was cool as f***, amazing offroad but there was something not right in the engine conversion as it ate gearboxes. Ended up selling it when I realised how rotten the sills were. By which time the price of trailer

I’d anyone wants to swap a 3017 for my TT2515 with mesh sides I’d think about it

Or one of these looks very handy

 

[Storrsy]

If you want the award for shittest ever designed ramps this surely has to be it? Not only was it a job to stay in the seat due to steepness, but they were narrow and the rungs were just wide enough apart for the idler wheel to nicely drop down in between as you went up or down. Plus so slippery the tracks would skip on the ramps as you tried to go up. The only way was to back up using track pedals keeping hands free to push up with bucket as you went up so at least something maintained contact with the ground. I'm actually surprised they were allowed to sell the trailer with them tbh

 

[Storrsy]

I’d anyone wants to swap a 3017 for my TT2515 with mesh sides I’d think about it

Or one of these looks very handy

Got to be some weight in one of those I'd have thought?

 

[Giles]

If you want the award for shittest ever designed ramps this surely has to be it? Not only was it a job to stay in the seat due to steepness, but they were narrow and the rungs were just wide enough apart for the idler wheel to nicely drop down in between as you went up or down. Plus so slippery the tracks would skip on the ramps as you tried to go up. The only way was to back up using track pedals keeping hands free to push up with bucket as you went up so at least something maintained contact with the ground. I'm actually surprised they were allowed to sell the trailer with them tbh

Got them on mine awful fecking things

Used to lift my sh70 on and off with arm rather than use those hateful things, did you ever trap your fingers sliding the heavy things back in?

 

[Storrsy]

Got them on mine awful fecking things

Used to lift my sh70 on and off with arm rather than use those hateful things, did you ever trap your fingers sliding the heavy things back in?

Yes hopping yourself on would have been much nicer but unfortunately not enough track length on a 3 tonner.
I still have 1 ramp in the yard just to remind myself never to buy such a thing again.

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Got to be some weight in one of those I'd have thought?

They do a hook lift model as well!
The half pipe one looks to weigh less than you’d think, and it can have ramps. If I was loading and tipping all day every day it would he worth considering. However my IW tipper doubles up as a decent flatbed so wins.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

If you want the award for shittest ever designed ramps this surely has to be it? Not only was it a job to stay in the seat due to steepness, but they were narrow and the rungs were just wide enough apart for the idler wheel to nicely drop down in between as you went up or down. Plus so slippery the tracks would skip on the ramps as you tried to go up. The only way was to back up using track pedals keeping hands free to push up with bucket as you went up so at least something maintained contact with the ground. I'm actually surprised they were allowed to sell the trailer with them tbh

At least that’s the flat-floored Herbst - those ramps paired with the scow-end trailer (on steel tracks) kick the arse out of anything Alton Towers can offer if you need an adrenaline rush!

 

[Storrsy]

At least that’s the flat-floored Herbst - those ramps paired with the scow-end trailer (on steel tracks) kick the arse out of anything Alton Towers can offer if you need an adrenaline rush!

That's true but the ramps are at least longer on that model. Know what you mean about the scow end though . I often thought that looked like a barrel of laughs coming over the ridge and on to a pair of s**t ramps on a cold icy morning
Do you ever tip it up so the scow is level? might be nicer coming on to the trailer that way?

 

[Monkeybusiness]

That's true but the ramps are at least longer on that model. Know what you mean about the scow end though . I often thought that looked like a barrel of laughs coming over the ridge and on to a pair of s**t ramps on a cold icy morning
Do you ever tip it up so the scow is level? might be nicer coming on to the trailer that way?

I only used one for a weekend, borrowed it off a mate. I think there would be a sweet-spot with tipping/getting out and lowering the trailer etc.
I’ve got a 14 tonne JPM equivalent which has aluminium ramps and a flat floor - the ramps are a pain in the arse though so I just tend to climb the digger in and out when I use it.

 

[Routy56]

Thank you.

With how things are currently going an 8x5 tipper may suit my needs better than ever before. Never had much to do with tipper trailers bar the one I used to borrow of my mate...was a 10x6 and I don't want that size.

So as promised here's few photos of my Indespension Trailer.
It's roughly 8'x6' (Internally nearer 8'2" x 5'11"). 8x4 sheets fit a treat.

Great business model this - simply rock up with yer mini on the trailer
My RD1503 weighs about 1.7T
Not as stable when cornering and I can't 'get my knee down'
But confident on main roads 'cos I have nearly new tyres all the time running at 95psi

Then simply load it up for yer 'muck away'.....

.....and tip it ready for grading off if required by the client

Wish I had a few more jobs like this. Very cost effective and a win win for us all

So in conclusion, mine is a 2006 trailer that I did a deal on when only a few years old.
When new it was £2,865 + VAT back in 2006.
Apart from new tyres every 5-6 years, all I've had to do was servicing and replace the plastic oil tank.
On the road loaded, it is smooth and well planted.
Empty it's very bouncy but that's to be expected with rubber suspension.
Design weight all up is only 2,600kg but for heavy stuff I've got my old faithful Ifor

Recommended if you can find a good used one.
And no sorry mines not for sale yet, but I'll give you guys 'first dibs' when I pack up

 

[V8Druid]

So as promised here's few photos of my Indespension Trailer.
It's roughly 8'x6' (Internally nearer 8'2" x 5'11"). 8x4 sheets fit a treat.
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Great business model this - simply rock up with yer mini on the trailer
My RD1503 weighs about 1.7T
Not as stable when cornering and I can't 'get my knee down'
But confident on main roads 'cos I have nearly new tyres all the time running at 95psi
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Then simply load it up for yer 'muck away'.....

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.....and tip it ready for grading off if required by the client

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Wish I had a few more jobs like this. Very cost effective and a win win for us all

So in conclusion, mine is a 2006 trailer that I did a deal on when only a few years old.
When new it was £2,865 + VAT back in 2006.
Apart from new tyres every 5-6 years, all I've had to do was servicing and replace the plastic oil tank.
On the road loaded, it is smooth and well planted.
Empty it's very bouncy but that's to be expected with rubber suspension.
Design weight all up is only 2,600kg but for heavy stuff I've got my old faithful Ifor

Recommended if you can find a good used one.
And no sorry mines not for sale yet, but I'll give you guys 'first dibs' when I pack up

was going to ask springs or rubber, but eventually read it ..... biggest issue with Indespension rubber is not overloading a twin set up mounting kerbs or on very uneven ground... doesn't take a lot to knacker one or even a pair of units, especially on a semi-spread set up like that, although even close coupled doesn't help a lot, if one set are 6" higher than t'other on a kerb. sooner or later ALL the weight is going to be on one pair only

 

[Giles]

At least that’s the flat-floored Herbst - those ramps paired with the scow-end trailer (on steel tracks) kick the arse out of anything Alton Towers can offer if you need an adrenaline rush!

Yeah ours is scow end, steels on sh70 scared the sh1t out of me loafing it, big 550mm on 5 ton even worse used to back it into a pile or banking load it that way.

Or loading 9 ton on hill without leg down lifted tractor rear wheels and off it went down the hill lol

Tend not to use it anymore lol not been out the yard in 5 years I’d guess

 

[Routy56]

was going to ask springs or rubber, but eventually read it ..... biggest issue with Indespension rubber is not overloading a twin set up mounting kerbs or on very uneven ground... doesn't take a lot to knacker one or even a pair of units, especially on a semi-spread set up like that, although even close coupled doesn't help a lot, if one set are 6" higher than t'other on a kerb. sooner or later ALL the weight is going to be on one pair only

Yep good point well made
But as an owner/operator I never knowingly bumped up kerbs etc

 

[V8Druid]

Yep good point well made
But as an owner/operator I never knowingly bumped up kerbs etc

's not kerbing a wheel that's the issue, more driving up/down over a kerb, heavily/fully loaded that kills them ... kerbing is more likely to kill a tyre ... fully mounting a kerb, (say cutting a corner at a junction), however'll see a unit off if you'm fully loaded ... tremendous shock loading on an individual unit. .. the nature of the way they're constructed/assembled, doesn't allow them to recover.

I've replaced dozens of 'em over the years, on customer's trailers