Screening buckets

[JD450A]

rotastar works when wet according to the vid

Rotastar™

The Rotastar™ is a unique, high-output screening bucket that combines market-leading features. Material is constantly rotated, without any chopping or pinching, making screening of damp, fragile and special materials possible.

www.screeningbucket.co.uk

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[TiltyShaun]

rotastar works when wet according to the vid

Rotastar™

The Rotastar™ is a unique, high-output screening bucket that combines market-leading features. Material is constantly rotated, without any chopping or pinching, making screening of damp, fragile and special materials possible.

www.screeningbucket.co.uk

I was quoted on a Lloyd bucket last year. As I all ready had that small screener that needed to be repaired I though it would be better value to spend a lot less on the repairs. Now in fairness, I do quite like the idea of a Lloyd. But to be honest, I have been quite impressed with my little deck. Downside with a Lloyd for me, is which machine do I put it on? My deck can be towed behind the car or truck and be used by either. Output of my deck depends on material out through it. When it is wet, output zero. If it is damp and full of tree roots, output slow, you are constantly clogging the screen. When it is dry and fine. I put about 40-50 tonnes through one short afternoon stint. Downside of mine is ideally you want an electric connection all though it will run off the genny.
The main thing with either is how you get a return for your money. I am still not yet sure how to pitch my screener. We have also hired a riddle bucket for the 8 tonner to pre sort the larger material out ready for crushing. We am minded to think the screener with a crusher bucket might be the way to go!!

 

[Newforester]

Alright guys, I'm looking at getting a screening bucket for the 8026. A customer has around 30+ loads of ex topsoil on a site that is a bit mixed in places with subsoil,. but generally underneath, seems of ok quality. Obviously its full of roots, few bricks etc and covered in weeds from being left in a heap for 2 years but I'm considering the possibility of screening it for him to save some money.
Yes I know a 3t screening bucket is like taking a teaspoon to it but my plan is to screen directly into a dumper as and when I need it so I'm not especially worried about production, more the quality of what it will produce. I already have a competitive price for a Gyrustar one from everyone's favourite attachment specialist - Dr Pecker. So my question is this;

Anyone have one, especially on a smaller machine?
How do you rate them?
Yes Shovelhands I know you made your own - show off but having discussed it, the main point seems to be belt or chain drive.
@Grahams I think you have one if I remember from a thread back on the old forum? Hows it performing a few years down the line?

I don't need advice about how I could ratchet strap a wacker plate to a heras panel and achieve the same effect. How Rory has made a screener out of his dumper, welded to a skip with some kind of unguarded concrete poker as a shaker deck. Nor how Takuchi make a better screening bucket and all others are s**t . And yes I know I'm crazy trying to pretend I have a 5t plus machine taking on bigger jobs with a 2.8t digger. Literally looking for you guys wisdom on how you've found your buckets performed.

Hi ollie, I had a look at that pile again when we were on site last week, after speaking to my mate who’s got a screening bucket on his 13 tonne machine i’m not convinced it’s going to be much good through a screening bucket. i’d say it’d be better to hire a screener in and do it with that.

I think we are both being asked about the same things

 

[Gunners]

Hi ollie, I had a look at that pile again when we were on site last week, after speaking to my mate who’s got a screening bucket on his 13 tonne machine i’m not convinced it’s going to be much good through a screening bucket. i’d say it’d be better to hire a screener in and do it with that.

I think we are both being asked about the same things

Indeed we are. As we both know, they cant make their minds up - hence the fiasco with the hedge last week! The pile is a load of s**t on the outside but I've had a dig around in the middle and it seems to improve. There's got to be 30+ loads there, the cost to remove that and bring it back will be significantly more than screening it. But if we screen it all in one go, it needs somewhere else to go - and the reality is it will be in the way. So my plan is to screen it as I need it, straight into the dumper, save on double handling.
But as you know, the plan will change several times yet. Luckily they pay me by the day so whatever really!

 

[jd6820]

Output of my deck depends on material out through it. When it is wet, output zero. If it is damp and full of tree roots, output slow, you are constantly clogging the screen. When it is dry and fine. I put about 40-50 tonnes through one short afternoon stint. Downside of mine is ideally you want an electric connection all though it will run off the genny.
The main thing with either is how you get a return for your money. I am still not yet sure how to pitch my screener. We have also hired a riddle bucket for the 8 tonner to pre sort the larger material out ready for crushing. We am minded to think the screener with a crusher bucket might be the way to go!!

We are exactly of the same mind. We sold mark 1 or 2 version then we've just landed on a soil shift/sorting job and are now having to build another as muck away costs making it very profitable to do so, as others have already commented. The thing I will say is that the screener when the going is good makes a better job faster. But roots and or wet conditions aren't ideal. Ill put a thread up when we start building mark 3, in the next week or two...

As for crushing we have been in two minds, Rory's solution (a self build unit) or just building enough of a pile and hire local lad with tractor and crusher, not sure which route to go yet but all things crusher seem to be fair money.

 

[Tintan28]

Alright guys, I'm looking at getting a screening bucket for the 8026. A customer has around 30+ loads of ex topsoil on a site that is a bit mixed in places with subsoil,. but generally underneath, seems of ok quality. Obviously its full of roots, few bricks etc and covered in weeds from being left in a heap for 2 years but I'm considering the possibility of screening it for him to save some money.
Yes I know a 3t screening bucket is like taking a teaspoon to it but my plan is to screen directly into a dumper as and when I need it so I'm not especially worried about production, more the quality of what it will produce. I already have a competitive price for a Gyrustar one from everyone's favourite attachment specialist - Dr Pecker. So my question is this;

Anyone have one, especially on a smaller machine?
How do you rate them?
Yes Shovelhands I know you made your own - show off but having discussed it, the main point seems to be belt or chain drive.
@Grahams I think you have one if I remember from a thread back on the old forum? Hows it performing a few years down the line?

I don't need advice about how I could ratchet strap a wacker plate to a heras panel and achieve the same effect. How Rory has made a screener out of his dumper, welded to a skip with some kind of unguarded concrete poker as a shaker deck. Nor how Takuchi make a better screening bucket and all others are s**t . And yes I know I'm crazy trying to pretend I have a 5t plus machine taking on bigger jobs with a 2.8t digger. Literally looking for you guys wisdom on how you've found your buckets performed.

I appreciate that this is an old thread but as a newbie I'm still sifting through.
I bought a Difco 2-3 All-Star screening bucket earlier this year which I run on the Tb225. It's great for separating the inevitable mixed piles of spoil which it gets through pretty quick & efficiently. Although it does let 15mm ish medium through, the resulting soil is decent - very good depending on the input material, more aerated & better than adequate for use as topsoil in most situations to satisfy customers & at worst much cleaner & easier/quicker to work with before being topped off with better topsoil. It's not for bulk work so replaces topsoil in bulk bags that is obviously bloody expensive & the resultant rubble I can get rid of for free or crush whereas unseparated spoil needs skipped or collected by the non existent grab wagons up here so it just makes sense & customers seem to like the principle. It's no great cash generator but it will definitely pay for itself over a few years.

 

[Pedrod355]

I appreciate that this is an old thread but as a newbie I'm still sifting through.
I bought a Difco 2-3 All-Star screening bucket earlier this year which I run on the Tb225. It's great for separating the inevitable mixed piles of spoil which it gets through pretty quick & efficiently. Although it does let 15mm ish medium through, the resulting soil is decent - very good depending on the input material, more aerated & better than adequate for use as topsoil in most situations to satisfy customers & at worst much cleaner & easier/quicker to work with before being topped off with better topsoil. It's not for bulk work so replaces topsoil in bulk bags that is obviously bloody expensive & the resultant rubble I can get rid of for free or crush whereas unseparated spoil needs skipped or collected by the non existent grab wagons up here so it just makes sense & customers seem to like the principle. It's no great cash generator but it will definitely pay for itself over a few years.

Was there any reason you chose the difco screening bucket rather than the like’s of the Lloyd bucket with 3 shafts?

Just wondering if there is any advantages/disadvantages to having 3 shafts apposed to 2 ?

 

[Tintan28]

Was there any reason you chose the difco screening bucket rather than the like’s of the Lloyd bucket with 3 shafts?

Just wondering if there is any advantages/disadvantages to having 3 shafts apposed to 2 ?

I enquired with a few different companies/suppliers & Will from Attach2UK was quick to respond & good to deal with. I am not up to speed with the other models out there but the sense of durablity I was given with it being chain driven & oil immersed, encased hydraulics etc, combined with a decent price & availability sold it for me.

 

[Pedrod355]

Back looking into screening buckets

Toss up between these two??

Lloyds budget

Difco all star

 

[6feetdown]

Alright guys, I'm looking at getting a screening bucket for the 8026. A customer has around 30+ loads of ex topsoil on a site that is a bit mixed in places with subsoil,. but generally underneath, seems of ok quality. Obviously its full of roots, few bricks etc and covered in weeds from being left in a heap for 2 years but I'm considering the possibility of screening it for him to save some money.
Yes I know a 3t screening bucket is like taking a teaspoon to it but my plan is to screen directly into a dumper as and when I need it so I'm not especially worried about production, more the quality of what it will produce. I already have a competitive price for a Gyrustar one from everyone's favourite attachment specialist - Dr Pecker. So my question is this;

Anyone have one, especially on a smaller machine?
How do you rate them?
Yes Shovelhands I know you made your own - show off but having discussed it, the main point seems to be belt or chain drive.
@Grahams I think you have one if I remember from a thread back on the old forum? Hows it performing a few years down the line?

I don't need advice about how I could ratchet strap a wacker plate to a heras panel and achieve the same effect. How Rory has made a screener out of his dumper, welded to a skip with some kind of unguarded concrete poker as a shaker deck. Nor how Takuchi make a better screening bucket and all others are s**t . And yes I know I'm crazy trying to pretend I have a 5t plus machine taking on bigger jobs with a 2.8t digger. Literally looking for you guys wisdom on how you've found your buckets performed.

I was actually thinking about 1 this afternoon whilst riddling with the rake bucket. Actually wonder if it could be a little side line when people are digging out etc so don't need to dump as much off site

 

[6feetdown]

I don't know anywhere around here you could get those rates so your own screening bucket makes even more sense to me.

300 plus for a grab here decent soil around 70 a ton i think

 

[6feetdown]

6 weeks of fine weather in scotland and a screening bucket was looking like a good idea loads of good dry topsoil being dug out of different jobs and loaded away to the tip so made an enquire to get a price and what happens that's the end of the summer here

Here too!

 

[6feetdown]

I enquired with a few different companies/suppliers & Will from Attach2UK was quick to respond & good to deal with. I am not up to speed with the other models out there but the sense of durablity I was given with it being chain driven & oil immersed, encased hydraulics etc, combined with a decent price & availability sold it for me.

Yeah I think at PW he said around 3.5k for 2.7t machine

 

[DaveDCB]

300 plus for a grab here decent soil around 70 a ton i think

£70 a ton?!!! Holey moley!! I’ve 1kton+ of it stacked up in my yard and another heap that’s probably half that by time it’s gone through
Might buy a screening bucket myself now

 

[V8Druid]

Here too!

been grim old day here too ..... hope the forecast dry day here tomorrow materialises, for a long (probably) day with Russ

 

[6feetdown]

£70 a ton?!!! Holey moley!! I’ve 1kton+ of it stacked up in my yard and another heap that’s probably half that by time it’s gone through
Might buy a screening bucket myself now

Well worth it. We had 10 ton cpl months ago 756 I think with the vat was soil blend. Best quality I think was 1400 for 10 ton

 

[V8Druid]

Well worth it. We had 10 ton cpl months ago 756 I think with the vat was soil blend. Best quality I think was 1400 for 10 ton

I had 20t of screened topsoil in 2013..... topped off all the grassed areas behind my retaining wall ready for turfing ... delivered, from Ross area - nice alluvial -- 200 quid and was really nice stuff ...
that is what you call inflation 1400%

 

[6feetdown]

I had 20t of screened topsoil in 2013..... topped off all the grassed areas behind my retaining wall ready for turfing ... delivered, from Ross area - nice alluvial -- 200 quid and was really nice stuff ...
that is what you call inflation 1400%

Rekon 2 years ago would have been less than ½ that!

 

[V8Druid]

been grim old day here too ..... hope the forecast dry day here tomorrow materialises, for a long (probably) day with Russ

Here too!

it is coming down here in some order ATM

 

[Smiffy]

I had 20t of screened topsoil in 2013..... topped off all the grassed areas behind my retaining wall ready for turfing ... delivered, from Ross area - nice alluvial -- 200 quid and was really nice stuff ...
that is what you call inflation 1400%

Might depend on grade. We always use b grade screened at 10mm and has the odd stick and stone in it think around 14 quid a tonne last time I collected it.
6mm screened is a hell of a lot more.
10mm blended with compost is dirt cheap or mega expensive depending on how much they need to get rid of the compost.
Went to get some real sh** stuff out a recycling plant last year. Still smelt like skip waste. Usually we would expect it near free and they wanted £45 a tonne collected.