Track Dumper options

hiluxman

hiluxman

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Russell said:
Yes that's my point however badly I made it.
One man digs and moves 20t a day for £200 in wages.
Or three men dig and move 40t a day for £600 in wages.
If you've got the room for spoil and you're in a hurry I suspect one digger driver, one dumper driver and two dumpers would really shift some muck.
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What wages are you paying? Round here you get a 3cx and driver for £260 per day.

Problem with 2 dumpers is you will almost certainly be waiting for each other at the pinch point.
 
hiluxman

hiluxman

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doobin said:
Affirmative. This is how I tend to run.

Basically even a muck truck holds three times as much as a barrow and takes no effort.
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I've a muck truck, bought new in 2015. Its been on 3 jobs, lads won't use it.

It goes out on self drive to 2 customers. One who uses it for moving pebbles/stone another who is a part time landscaper.

Who'd of though a set up that works perfectly for me, that's tried and tested is so contradictory 🤪
 
hiluxman

hiluxman

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Russell said:
Yes that's my point however badly I made it.
One man digs and moves 20t a day for £200 in wages.
Or three men dig and move 40t a day for £600 in wages.
If you've got the room for spoil and you're in a hurry I suspect one digger driver, one dumper driver and two dumpers would really shift some muck.
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We was comparing 12t to 32t. So that's alot different comparing 20 to 40t
 
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Russell

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When i was tipping muck with my old tt85 it would take about 1.9 or 2 ton. The dimensions were something like 0.4m x 1.2m x 2.4m= 1.152m3 so ive always gone with the assumption that a cubic meter round here was roughly about 2 ton . The example i gave of two 6yd skips was a fairly sandy soil so not much bulk up but to be honest im guessing at the weight as i did not take them over a weigh bridge.
Labourer rates down here would probably be something like £12 a hour employed although im told agencys supply them for £160+vat a day.
 
hiluxman

hiluxman

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Russell said:
When i was tipping muck with my old tt85 it would take about 1.9 or 2 ton. The dimensions were something like 0.4m x 1.2m x 2.4m= 1.152m3 so ive always gone with the assumption that a cubic meter round here was roughly about 2 ton . The example i gave of two 6yd skips was a fairly sandy soil so not much bulk up but to be honest im guessing at the weight as i did not take them over a weigh bridge.
Labourer rates down here would probably be something like £12 a hour employed although im told agencys supply them for £160+vat a day.
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My mate does a 12yd Roro skip. I can fit it's contents in my grab with 1 or 2 grabs left in it.

Sometimes I have his Roro and empty it with the grab as it keeps the job tidy and gives a place for muck to go while your tipping one off. It's also better from a complains point of view and legality point of view of just tipping muck on the road or pavement.

Alot use a x2 on m3 to calculate but that's usually a safety bet rather than an actual based on material your dealing with.
 
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Brendan

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I've always worked off M3 is direct to 2x skip yards so 3m3 fills a 6 yard skip and 4m3 for an 8yrd and around 7m to a grab
Very rare I wheel barrow anything, getting extra labour is a nightmare and dicking around with ramps for skips brings about more issues.
Not tried 2 or 3 lads barrowing Vs tracked dumpers but can't see them doing twice the amount, plus when I was doing those waste treatment plants you wouldn't stand a chance doing it with wheel barrows. Not even a remote chance, where it was being tipped you'd struggle to push the barrow through resulting in either having to use boards or tip and flatten and that's before you got to the 40m or so run with around 5m in height difference

@Pedrod355 the step on the htd5 was an option in the last couple of years or so but at something stupid like a 1k add on doubt many will bother
 
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Maxus

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Htd5 is what I have been running for the best part of a year, previously it was barrows (the proper belle warrior barrows) and its been a brilliant asset. Undoubtedly better than wheel barrows. Just easier all round, labourer doesn't cry himself to sleep any more, sometimes he even gets to stay at home. With me on the digger i can hop off and do the dumping too. I've used it to shift soil within large gardens, and you can make a nice big pile, and also to load tt2515 tipper. Best way to load tipper I found is to go up ramps, then the final load or 2 use the high tip function. Also great when you need to move slabs or blocks or whatever material you're handling. Yes, there is a line where it's not worth bringing out, but it's not much.

I wish the htd5 was quieter, and faster. But for me I like how compact the machine is, and how little diesel it uses. Width is the usual indicator for access but I've found length to be a critical factor, htd5 seems the most nimble. Other machines look massive beside it!
 
Fms1

Fms1

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Pedrod355 said:
After getting some prices back jcb seems the best option!
Jcb £7900 exc step extra £600
Cormidi £11,500exc
Slanetrac £12,750 exc
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No brainier! They also are sensible resale, lost £1500 on one I sold few yrs ago over 3 years (my two I have now are 2020’s and payed £6,400 each and could nearly get that back at Richie’s!)
 
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