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[Lancs Lad]

monmouthshire the same .. buying white elephant IE,s that no one else will buy and wondering why they're all empty and what's more out of county entirely FFS

Oh and by the way this was two units...one is still empty has been for years

 

[Lancs Lad]

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[V8Druid]

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time to reduce the profit margins and prices then

 

[LKSF]

Personally I think the town centres should be re-developed into flats and housing. In recent years a lot have become disused as people don't go high St shopping anymore, but they're just sat there empty.

 

[doobin]

time to reduce the profit margins and prices then

Pricks have been subsidised by gov policy for decades.

 

[V8Druid]

Personally I think the town centres should be re-developed into flats and housing. In recent years a lot have become disused as people don't go high St shopping anymore, but they're just sat there empty.

totally agree ....
were only discussing the 'need' to build and it being used as an excuse to build on green field sites, by the majors, yesterday ....
they could tear down 80% of the IEs that got built around here in the last two/three decades and use the ground they're sat on .....
very few of them were ever occupied and those that were, were only occupied for a short period because of the rates/rent free offers to entice businesses into them ..
99% vacated after their free periods were up - or went bust
was a timber board factory built here 15-ish years ago -- had a couple of my cranes on the site for months ...
a good half mile long - huge grants from Welsh Gov. -- were told and fully aware at the outset that their products could be bought off the docks in Cardiff/Bristol for a quarter of the production cost ....
they ran the plant for a trial run and it has never produced anything since that ...
been empty years..
huge site - probably build 1000+ houses on it
cost multi £millions and a total white elephant

there is so much brownfield available, FFS use it.
problem is most of the majors aren't used to dealing with any demo. aspects - too used to having a blank canvas for their projects

 

[V8Druid]

Pricks have been subsidised by gov policy for decades.

couple of years ago was a 60+ dev here with the usual 20-ish% down to 'affordable' ...
built all the 'sale-ables' first and were selling for north of £475k .....
then they built the affordable after - at the entrance to the estate ..
several original buyers sued them for misrepresentation type thing, having to drive through what rapidly became a mini ghetto and won .. had to buy the houses back and eventually sold them on again - for around £150k less .....
make all dev.s build the afford-ables first ..
that'll set the bench mark for what they'll achieve for the rest and bring prices down dramatically.
bloke in the village has built 7 or 8 new 'upmarkets', with two afford-ables yet to be built ...
doubt he'd have achieved what he did, if the afford-ables'd been built first ...
last of the up-markets 's been built for a year and no sign of him fulfilling his planning obligation to build the two afford-able units yet

 

[LKSF]

totally agree ....
were only discussing the 'need' to build and it being used as an excuse to build on green field sites, by the majors, yesterday ....
they could tear down 80% of the IEs that got built around here in the last two/three decades and use the ground they're sat on .....
very few of them were ever occupied and those that were, were only occupied for a short period because of the rates/rent free offers to entice businesses into them ..
99% vacated after their free periods were up - or went bust
was a timber board factory built here 15-ish years ago -- had a couple of my cranes on the site for months ...
a good half mile long - huge grants from Welsh Gov. -- were told and fully aware at the outset that their products could be bought off the docks in Cardiff/Bristol for a quarter of the production cost ....
they ran the plant for a trial run and it has never produced anything since that ...
been empty years..
huge site - probably build 1000+ houses on it
cost multi £millions and a total white elephant

there is so much brownfield available, FFS use it.
problem is most of the majors aren't used to dealing with any demo. aspects - too used to having a blank canvas for their projects

It's down to the usual thing - money.
It's not what is the best way forward, it's which is the cheapest.

 

[V8Druid]

It's down to the usual thing - money.
It's not what is the best way forward, it's which is the cheapest.

not always......
15+ years ago, where Pam lived down in the village they wanted to build (started at) 11 and eventually ended up at 8 so called 'affordable houses' behind her house in a greenfield
we fought it for years ... not because we were opposed to the principle, but there were so many better, flatter, more easily accessed sites in / around the village - this was one of the few productive, arable, green fields, attached/close to the village
the site eventually cost well north of £750+K - just for the earthworks to turn it from a circa 15 deg slope to a plateau on which they could start to build ... in total it came to just over £2.9+M for 8 dwellings for a local HA - could've built 20 for the same cost on much better, flatter, ready to go, sites .. remembering that these were on ag land (so negligible cost) and that it only happened because a HA wanted to use it (exemptions of all sorts for the bar stewards) .... these houses could never be called 'affordable' -- only because a HA rents them out at a supposedly 'affordable rent', whilst accruing a portfolio that no one else could possibly get planning for (goes on a lot in Monmouthshire) on cheap, greenfield, ag land.

 

[Vinpetrol]

couple of years ago was a 60+ dev here with the usual 20-ish% down to 'affordable' ...
built all the 'sale-ables' first and were selling for north of £475k .....
then they built the affordable after - at the entrance to the estate ..
several original buyers sued them for misrepresentation type thing, having to drive through what rapidly became a mini ghetto and won .. had to buy the houses back and eventually sold them on again - for around £150k less .....
make all dev.s build the afford-ables first ..
that'll set the bench mark for what they'll achieve for the rest and bring prices down dramatically.
bloke in the village has built 7 or 8 new 'upmarkets', with two afford-ables yet to be built ...
doubt he'd have achieved what he did, if the afford-ables'd been built first ...
last of the up-markets 's been built for a year and no sign of him fulfilling his planning obligation to build the two afford-able units yet

The thing is anyone lucky enough to get a new house from a HA should be subject to conditions of up keep so they don’t turn into a mini Beirut . My brother in law has one and they can’t keep caravans on the drive , limits to outbuilding sizes and the gardens must be maintained . They even come around and inspect . Pretty reasonable conditions and it works on that development .

 

[Smiffy]

The thing is anyone lucky enough to get a new house from a HA should be subject to conditions of up keep so they don’t turn into a mini Beirut . My brother in law has one and they can’t keep caravans on the drive , limits to outbuilding sizes and the gardens must be maintained . They even come around and inspect . Pretty reasonable conditions and it works on that development .

Judging by some of the posts on Facebook I think a large proportion of those with council accommodation don't regard how fortunate they are and give little thought to helping themselves. This isn't all inhabitants as there are some who plow there own money into the properties. But the entitled far outway them.

 

[Grahams]

Judging by some of the posts on Facebook I think a large proportion of those with council accommodation don't regard how fortunate they are and give little thought to helping themselves. This isn't all inhabitants as there are some who plow there own money into the properties. But the entitled far outway them.

I know a few people who live in council houses. Some keep them immaculate and as you have mentioned spend their own money on improvements, but another guy I know sublets his house and lives with his girlfriend. The combination of rent money and dole means he has a comfortable lifestyle whilst do f*** all. The council never seem to check up on tenants so they can get away with it. As seen in the tower block that burnt down, a high proportion of people living there were not the registered tenants.

 

[Vinpetrol]

I know a few people who live in council houses. Some keep them immaculate and as you have mentioned spend their own money on improvements, but another guy I know sublets his house and lives with his girlfriend. The combination of rent money and dole means he has a comfortable lifestyle whilst do f*** all. The council never seem to check up on tenants so they can get away with it. As seen in the tower block that burnt down, a high proportion of people living there were not the registered tenants.

The issue there as you said “ the council never checks up on Tennants” well what do the managers who actually manage these property’s do then . Why should good housing stock be allowed to go to rack and ruin because the Tennants get away with it

 

[Smiffy]

The issue there as you said “ the council never checks up on Tennants” well what do the managers who actually manage these property’s do then . Why should good housing stock be allowed to go to rack and ruin because the Tennants get away with it

I think we all know what any manager working for the council does all day

 

[Lancs Lad]

I think we all know what any manager working for the council does all day

No...? Do tell I've often wondered