Not quite a digger, still a big fine

[Brendan]

Workers caught lifted into the air by a digger | ITV News

Builders have been caught standing in the bucket of a digger to fit a stone into the top of a new home. | ITV News Granada

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[DaveDCB]

Threw the book at them!!!!

 

[pettsy]

To be fair, wasn’t the first time the site had been visited by the sounds of it

 

[V8Druid]

had no idea anyway ..... would've been so much easier stood up, rather than grovelling on their knees

 

[JD450A]

Sound's like a reoccurring problem site....

I've mixed views on the HSE's attitudes towards this sort of thing, personally a fkn good shake up of our reg's towards man baskets in general wants bringing into play, as the ones we have are quite frankly a joke and wind up either getting bent into whatever the user desires at the time or just ignored..... No reason whatsoever a Man basket on a telescopic handler shouldn't be encouraged.... if it was people would have less of a excuse to use buckets.....

 

[Lancs Lad]

Sound's like a reoccurring problem site....

I've mixed views on the HSE's attitudes towards this sort of thing, personally a fkn good shake up of our reg's towards man baskets in general wants bringing into play, as the ones we have are quite frankly a joke and wind up either getting bent into whatever the user desires at the time or just ignored..... No reason whatsoever a Man basket on a telescopic handler shouldn't be encouraged.... if it was people would have less of a excuse to use buckets.....

No man baskets not allowed for planned maintenance...ok so you get in a scissor lift that's about 2ft wide and tips over if you drive over a toothpick...but loads safer than a basket on a 5t counterbalance then..

 

[DaveDCB]

No man baskets not allowed for planned maintenance...ok so you get in a scissor lift that's about 2ft wide and tips over if you drive over a toothpick...but loads safer than a basket on a 5t counterbalance then..

Don’t think that job was planned… not very well anyway

 

[JD450A]

No man baskets not allowed for planned maintenance...ok so you get in a scissor lift that's about 2ft wide and tips over if you drive over a toothpick...but loads safer than a basket on a 5t counterbalance then..

This is it, plus over 7m (from memory) and it's completely outlawed...... But putting a remote control on a telehandler makes it fine, and using a crane is perfect...

Personally if they turned round, legislated exactly what you needed (man basket and forklift in test, harnesses and two way communication.

The biggest issue with baskets historically was workers being crushed against ceilings or FLTs tipping over in warehouse environments.

Time it was all reviewed. Write a rule and make it so it's easy to comply and mandate a good £1000+ fine if seen in breach.

Sorted

 

[V8Druid]

This is it, plus over 7m (from memory) and it's completely outlawed...... But putting a remote control on a telehandler makes it fine, and using a crane is perfect...

Personally if they turned round, legislated exactly what you needed (man basket and forklift in test, harnesses and two way communication.

The biggest issue with baskets historically was workers being crushed against ceilings or FLTs tipping over in warehouse environments.

Time it was all reviewed. Write a rule and make it so it's easy to comply and mandate a good £1000+ fine if seen in breach.

Sorted

man basket on a crane became very last resort years ago ...
only allowed if now't else'll do/available/feasible ...
probably one of the safest ways to access at height/reach going. Always provided the machine is correctly set and fully functional, as is the same for any form of MEWP

 

[jd6820]

This is it, plus over 7m (from memory) and it's completely outlawed...... But putting a remote control on a telehandler makes it fine, and using a crane is perfect...

Personally if they turned round, legislated exactly what you needed (man basket and forklift in test, harnesses and two way communication.

The biggest issue with baskets historically was workers being crushed against ceilings or FLTs tipping over in warehouse environments.

Time it was all reviewed. Write a rule and make it so it's easy to comply and mandate a good £1000+ fine if seen in breach.

Sorted

Think it's 6M is the current maximum or at least that is what is plastered on most current man baskets as the limit before requiring controls from the basket. We have a gene lift and it doesn't feel anywhere near as stable as the telehandler even though it weighs as much. A lot of the weight is low down and the boom light in comparison.

 

[JD450A]

man basket on a crane became very last resort years ago ...
only allowed if now't else'll do/available/feasible ...
probably one of the safest ways to access at height/reach going. Always provided the machine is correctly set and fully functional, as is the same for any form of MEWP

You say that Grah, but the amount of works carried out by crane basket on a regular basis is vast.....

If the do/available/feasibility was applied to using forklifts in the same way as cranes then you'd find a huge amount more lifts would be done with them....

 

[Smiffy]

Seeing the amount of telehandlers taking a nap on social media I would far rather be in control of my own destiny in a mewp than trust whichever plinker the site manager has dragged of the street this morning.
I think that's a big part of the problem. In a mewp you are aware of your own life. A telehandlers driver values you as much as the pack 9f bricks they have just strewn down the road

 

[6feetdown]

I'm sure I looked into it last year tele with basket is allowed but only for unplanned / emergency works

 

[V8Druid]

Seeing the amount of telehandlers taking a nap on social media I would far rather be in control of my own destiny in a mewp than trust whichever plinker the site manager has dragged of the street this morning.
I think that's a big part of the problem. In a mewp you are aware of your own life. A telehandlers driver values you as much as the pack 9f bricks they have just strewn down the road

and that is the bottom line for TH,s ..... inadequate experience/skills in the seat

 

[Smiffy]

and that is the bottom line for TH,s ..... inadequate experience/skills in the seat

I think it's more that it seems to attract a certain type of person in my experience. It's definitely not the best job on site

 

[V8Druid]

I think it's more that it seems to attract a certain type of person in my experience. It's definitely not the best job on site

sadly true, but the job is what you make it .... pride in being good at it is what differentiates seat fillers from a skilled operator -- whatever the seat .... I've seen some superb operators and some twunts that weren't fit to operate a broom
absolute, total, utter ,s

 

[Smiffy]

sadly true, but the job is what you make it .... pride in being good at it is what differentiates seat fillers from a skilled operator -- whatever the seat .... I've seen some superb operators and some twunts that weren't fit to operate a broom
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I don't know I think some of it is more you can't educate mud