Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
Not sure if a Spiromix would do it. Only need 30l/m hydraulic to run, but might be a bit small. You often see them for sale second hand for reasonable money.
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6feetdown
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Find ours at just under or over 40 l/m runs well
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Stroppymonkey
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Nah not a fan of subbying. They can never produce compliance paperwork and to do oil tank bases and trenches reliably you need to know the ins and outs of oil storage regs and building regs. We have the kit and the space and know how so prefer to keep it high end and professional and in house. We sub out blockwork though! My days of laying 100-200 blocks a day are thankfully well behind me.
Useful info that you've explored this already, and I've ruled out the pan mixer idea. I think Im either going to spend a few £££ and build a suitable tub for my tipper, or buy a decent mixer that we will still be able to load with taillift or ramped plant trailer. Maybe both! What bugs me is that it costs me more to buy the materials than it does to buy the readymix... it's just the logistics of microloads that is the challenge. But it's all fun!
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Stroppymonkey
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It's amazing how much the price jumps from a 130l minimix!
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Smiffy
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Doobins one looks a better bet and is road tow
diggerjones
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What about collecting semi dry mix and knock it up on site. As Giles says by the time you get to site with ready mix, it will be solid
Giles
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I’ve got this one and the diesel one cracking bits of kit although my diesel one is in need of full gearbox and worm gear rebuild but it’s done 20 years of solid work must be a few million revolutions
Giles
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Belle do the at350 towable bigger than the xt100/150/200 ones but then no trailer for materials unless wagon or 3.5 ton tipper
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Stroppymonkey
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Spent a lot of time on the old hand started deisel one on the farm in the 80s and 90s and then newer ones in the 00s. Dangerous buggers in hindsight. Had a Devon shovel smack me a few times in those days.
Giles
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cut my teeth spinning the crank flipping the decompressor to watch the smoke rings puff out the bottom then try not have your wrist broken, the electric starts are great though we get two full belle warrior barrows out of our xt100 bet the 200 is a beast
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6feetdown
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Yep my pan mixer was cheaper than that
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
aye ... spun a few 4 wheelers over in me time too ... they mix bloody well though
doobin
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Yea, the ease of manouverablilty was a major point for me. There was one for sale in Scotland recently, but they are pretty rare.
The old belle site mixer design is so dated, it hasn’t changed since the seventies! They are such a pain to move around site and even worse to load into a trailer and strap which is the only way of mowing them from site to site.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
make that early fifties and beyond .... pretty much the same from back then, just heavier built ... had a s/h Parker back beginning of the '80,s (and a few since-always had one parked in the yard) and all basically the same ..
as said a PITA to move about and need a decent trailer to move them about from locations .... after you've wrestled 'em into the trailer, that is and a bit of a bitch to tie down once in. .......
but ... bloody great mixers for knocking it out in any quantity.
once spent a very long day feeding two Parkers for my old man's shed project ... 20 x 30 ft slab .... was on my knees after 12+ hrs of that ...... ready mix was dear tack back in the early '80,s ... makings were much cheaper
young(er) and daft(er) back then
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Rob65
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Ok, i’m not an expert on concrete by any way, but how wet does it need to be during transport?
Could it be transported in 1te bulk bags each with say 200kg in?
If so could you then drive the Muck Truck up to the trailer, tip the skip forwards and then use a small electric winch attached to the back of the skip to drag the bag to the dumper. Rip the skip back down and the bag of concrete will fall in.
The bags only cost about £5 each so would be considered as consumable and cut open if needed.
I have lifted and moved part filled bulk bags using my td5 tracked dumper in a similar way.
Could it be transported in 1te bulk bags each with say 200kg in?
If so could you then drive the Muck Truck up to the trailer, tip the skip forwards and then use a small electric winch attached to the back of the skip to drag the bag to the dumper. Rip the skip back down and the bag of concrete will fall in.
The bags only cost about £5 each so would be considered as consumable and cut open if needed.
I have lifted and moved part filled bulk bags using my td5 tracked dumper in a similar way.
doobin
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I think I'd rather mix by hand with a beach spade than go through that faff.
OK, not quite. But you get my drift!
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Stroppymonkey
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yes - I am trying to make life faster and easier...I think I'd rather mix by hand with a beach spade than go through that faff.
OK, not quite. But you get my drift!
Giles
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Just drop the ramp on the low plant trailer and pull or winch it on or if machines on site just lift off easy as that. The belles with rubber / air tyres so much easier than the metal wheeled old ones
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doobin
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Wonder what the equivalent Belle costs? They do a similar skip fed one.interesting mixer ... pretty old skool design with a modern slant ... wanna be making some concrete to warrant it
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RB800H
800-litre skip-fed mixer with horizontal drum and hydraulic skip. Available in Electric or Diesel with standard scraper powered either by remote control or winch and clutch.
www.altrad-belle.com
@Stroppymonkey - what did you end up with in the end?
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