Petrol pressure washer

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Andy Gaffer

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Evening all, I need to buy a smallish portable petrol pressure washer so I can clean the machine on site and wash the dirt bike at home, the last one I had which I sold a few years ago used to be under constant load which was ok when in use but sounded terrible when you release the trigger, need one which can be left for a minute or two with out trying to kill its self, any suggestions?
Thanks Andy.
 
Quattromike

Quattromike

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I’ve got a small kartcher petrol unit with a Honda petrol engine in it, works ok but if I hand a chance again I would go big. There is a 3ph. Krazzle at work and it is a beast, definitely a two handed operation. Gets things clean. The small petrol one is light and easy to transport but when using it kinda feels like could be better for washing dirt off machines.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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I have had a Kranzle Therm CA/11/130 Hot water cleaner at the yard for a good few years now and its a proper bit of kit, Im after one for home for the dirt bike etc too :) and deff another Kranzle, they have total stop when your not using them and can regulate pressure for the bikes etc not cheap but then your not fecking about replacing a cheap one every couple of years :rolleyes:
 
doobin

doobin

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Andy Gaffer said:
Evening all, I need to buy a smallish portable petrol pressure washer so I can clean the machine on site and wash the dirt bike at home, the last one I had which I sold a few years ago used to be under constant load which was ok when in use but sounded terrible when you release the trigger, need one which can be left for a minute or two with out trying to kill its self, any suggestions?
Thanks Andy.
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They all have to recirculate water when the trigger is closed- no way around it. This is OK for a minute or two but longer should be avoided due to heat build up knackering seals. Some models return to a tank which gives greater cooling capacity, but most electric ones have pressure/timer based auto-off for the pump for this reason. Not an easy option with engine driven.

If you only want small I'd just go with a Chinese 6hp Honda copy type.

As Mike says, bigger is better, especially when it comes to cleaning machines on site. The small machines may be high pressure but they are lousy volume, so you just end up smearing the mud everywhere.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Had an Andrews hot/cold in work, 2000psi, 15ltr/m, main fed .... 1ph and a bril. bit of kit for de-greasing with ..... would take the die out of the brick bund around my fuel tanks, blowing the moss off it occasionally :oops: and cleaned the yard concrete back to as new look .... had to be careful near paintwork though !!

Got a 11hp Hodna diesel one at home here, leccy hoof or pull cord ;) ..... two handed lance jobbie .... 3000psi IIRC .....
that's 15l/m too and needs to have the pick up/returns in an IBC to keep up ..... me spring's only 4.5l/m, gravity fed, (which me outside taps are), so have to use the IBCs as a reservoir head ......
bloody awesome cleaning though, for a cold wash.
Will have to look to see what breed the unit is and it's a two man job to handle it (or a sling).Small it ain't :oops:
would imagine it was a lot of money new .... I acquired it s/hand many years ago. :rolleyes:
 
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Rob65

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I have one of the 6hp Chicom petrol machines. It’s quoted as being 2400psi at about 9 or 10l:min.

Had it a couple of years but not used it hard. I think it would probably be up to your requirements and for £200 ish might be worth a punt.

One thing I do find a bit odd about it is that you always have to use the choke to start it, even when it’s hot. It uses plenty of petrol so I don’t think is running weak so I just accept it.

Good luck in your hunt.

Rob
 
Furniss

Furniss

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doobin said:
They all have to recirculate water when the trigger is closed- no way around it. This is OK for a minute or two but longer should be avoided due to heat build up knackering seals. Some models return to a tank which gives greater cooling capacity, but most electric ones have pressure/timer based auto-off for the pump for this reason. Not an easy option with engine driven.

If you only want small I'd just go with a Chinese 6hp Honda copy type.
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My Kranzle has total stop - dont think its recirculating anything.
 
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Rob65

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I forgot to mention in my previous post I use one of the rotary nozzles on mine.

They have a small pencil jet and is spins round due to the water flow so covers a much larger area than a static small jet but has much better cleaning power than a wider conventional jet. Think is cost about 18 quid and worth every penny.

Rob
 
doobin

doobin

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Furniss said:
My Kranzle has total stop - dont think its recirculating anything.
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If the pump is turning, it's recirculating. At a lower pressure, but still recirculating, heating up the water trapped in the loop. This is why circuit board controlled machines cut the power to the motor if you don't use it for ten seconds or so. Impractical to do this on a petrol machine.
 
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Andy Gaffer

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Furniss said:
My Kranzle has total stop - dont think its recirculating anything.
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Thanks for your reply's, I've been looking around and the Kranzle's seem to be the ones to go for and have the best reviews however, the prices I've seen so far are expensive to say the least, around £1200/1500 for the small petrol ones, not overly keen on buying a Chinese washer, need to speak to few dealers for some firm prices.
 
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fred

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i got one of the b and q macallister ones a couple years ago as it was on sale in the autumn. didnt expect much to be honest but was fairly surprised. Still use it now from time to time, take it to site to clean the kit down. I dont think it would last long used every day but one a week is ok, loads more pressure than the electric ones.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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doobin said:
If the pump is turning, it's recirculating. At a lower pressure, but still recirculating, heating up the water trapped in the loop. This is why circuit board controlled machines cut the power to the motor if you don't use it for ten seconds or so. Impractical to do this on a petrol machine.[/QUOTE

yes I understand the issues on a petrol unit - my point was some electric machines have total stop - ie Stopped
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Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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I bought one a year or so ago, from these people. Honda engine, good little unit to be fair, certainly for the money, and good people to deal with. Use it on site, fed by water in an old plastic oil tank or ibc, works well.
https://www.dandasservices.co.uk/
 
doobin

doobin

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I mentioned that in my original post (y) op was asking about petrol ones, specifically the noise his makes when trigger closed
 
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Russell

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I've got a 6hp Honda with about as much pump as it will run, I had to back off the preload on the relief valve to stop it stalling. It's good for the dirt bike but it does struggle removing heavy clay from a digger, it will do it, it's just slow.
 
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Russell

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That's the same pump as my last one. It was ok and lasted probably a couple years. If it dies you can get the same pump for £40 or a slightly better one for £100-£150
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
fred said:
that is pretty much a clone of the B and Q Macallister one that I have. Not the greatest but still runs after 3 years....
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Russell said:
That's the same pump as my last one. It was ok and lasted probably a couple years. If it dies you can get the same pump for £40 or a slightly better one for £100-£150
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So Ryan, @Russell you'd rate that as a light general use sort of tool then ?:unsure:

mine is a bit of a lump for the odd quick blast off ....:rolleyes:

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it's a superb blaster, (y) but a lot of faff for the odd job :( .... it's got a Hodna G411 diesel on it, sups H2O at 15+L/m and squirts it out at over 3,000 PSI IIRC ... or could be 4,000 .... can't recall, for sure, ATM :confused: .... it's a hell of a washer though and has taken Pam by surprise a few times, nearly knocking her off her feet, pulling the trigger, without being suitably braced first :giggle::oops:

Summat like that lil' 'un would get used reasonably often and wouldn't necessarily need my input,:giggle: so have been taking notice of this thread, with an eye to summat 'handy' getting mooted :rolleyes: .. it'd probably not get used more than a couple of times a month .

Looks like the ubiquitous Loncin type Hodna copy of a motor :rolleyes: .... have a Loncin on a pump, which starts as well as any Hodna I've got/ever had ... started it yesterday ... second pull after at least 6-8 months sat idle :cool: and doubt i'll ever wear it out :giggle: ..... sure as hell pumps water at a rate through a 2" pump (y)

So .... any further thoughts or input on that little thing chaps? ??;):unsure: ..... seems like reasonable VFM to me
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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