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JD450A
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What these thick fucks often fail to recognise is the majority of work is not "Bulk out a hole" shite.
I have said for a long time that the reality of automation in construction is not rosy..... I'm already seeing the decline of high rate GPS Drivers..... anyone of my generation can use GPS/3d machine Control..... 3d machine Guidance is/was a different ball game and actually needed skillset to setup and operate.
The sad reality is the funding being spunked on nonsense is not being spent on training.
I have said for a long time that the reality of automation in construction is not rosy..... I'm already seeing the decline of high rate GPS Drivers..... anyone of my generation can use GPS/3d machine Control..... 3d machine Guidance is/was a different ball game and actually needed skillset to setup and operate.
The sad reality is the funding being spunked on nonsense is not being spent on training.
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
As Rory says they are looking at a very niche area, but good luck to them if they can get it to work. Even on the trenching side I bet house founations on a small site will be some way off. Maybe on the bigger open sites not so far away. They are putting 3500 new houses just down the road from me so it may be suitable for something like that in the forseable future.
To my mind it doesn't look like AI, just an upgraded 3D system that waggles the leavers its self. It is not learning to do stuff on it's own which is what I understood AI to be, it is just following a very limited instruction brief. It can't even refil the trench.
To my mind it doesn't look like AI, just an upgraded 3D system that waggles the leavers its self. It is not learning to do stuff on it's own which is what I understood AI to be, it is just following a very limited instruction brief. It can't even refil the trench.
JD450A
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2017.....
All this stuff CAN be automated..... Yep, no bother at all.
Issue is the benefits and variety. They have jumped on both the skidloader and the excavator as they CAN automate it and they are popular, leading to a daft thought about it being mass market.
Trouble is they can only automate a few tasks that can already be done as quickly/quicker with existing GPS, or even by eye.
Why make a Autonomous skid steer and then lurch across to a excavator that can only do trenching?
Unicorns don't exist.
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Maxus
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I only had a chance to skim through but it seems like a giant incredibly expensive automated system to replace what a relatively inexperienced operator could achieve. No doubt the system needs a team of highly trained (and highly paid) engineers to maintain and troubleshoot. Just stick a guy in the seat and let the poor sod get on with it! As previously mentioned is possibly useful helping building 3500 new homes, but what's the point? We'll not need people!
Storrsy
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Surprised you havent put up a video of your automated tracking Tak Rory. Ahead of the game.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
tha's a lorra houses Gra .... WTF are the occupants gonna do for work to pay for them???
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
can see more down time than productive hours, waiting for the man with the lap top 
Storrsy
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Think the reason most people go into plant is cos they enjoy operating them, thinking outside the box to get the best out of a machine etc. It's like self checkouts great untill you want to buy some booze then they're a frickin nightmare.
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
They will sell them no problem, the world seems to want to move to near us.
Major problem is the exits are onto a country road which already has bottlenecks either end. All they have done to fix this is put a cycle track alongside the road.
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Smiffy
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Most people seem to work from home now doing not a lot on a laptop so location doesn't matter. Which I find really sad as I want to be far away from people that is becoming less and less of a possibility
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6feetdown
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I think geared up to American market big wide expanses large projects
Storrsy
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I honestly don't get this obsession with building houses everywhere. Sherford the new town they're building near is will have 5500 houses. They aren't budget houses either. So where on earth is that influx of people coming from (not sure I want to know the answer to that). And surely if they have moved from elsewhere there would be a void left but seems the building is going on throughout the country. I hate seeing swathes of countryside given over to housing- once it's gone it's gone.
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6feetdown
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Yeah said the same a while back, amazes me how people afford ½ of the properties especially if your on or just above minimum wage
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
you seen the massive estates they're building in Ross and another on the Ross rd into Hereford .... huge
GazCro
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If you look at the number of second (and third and fourth and even more) homes and holiday lets people own it's no wonder there is a housing shortage and they need to build more. They wouldn't be building them if they couldn't sell em.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
but who is funding their 'in house 'buy/lending schemes?
have said before, I've had it on very good authority that the majority of high st banks will not offer mortgages on new properties ... like to wait two years and all the snagging's done, 'fore they'll consider mortgaging a 'new' build from the big boys.
GazCro
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Well I know of plenty who have bought new build houses built by bigger companies with mortgages and a lot are bought by first time buyers so I don't know where you're info is from but it can be donebut who is funding their 'in house 'buy/lending schemes?
have said before, I've had it on very good authority that the majority of high st banks will not offer mortgages on new properties ... like to wait two years and all the snagging's done, 'fore they'll consider mortgaging a 'new' build from the big boys.
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6feetdown
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Not been that way for a while but same here Llanwern and Whiteheads steel works thousands being built, for who?you seen the massive estates they're building in Ross and another on the Ross rd into Hereford .... huge
I'm sure we all have various ideas!
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6feetdown
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Maybe a lot are purchased on shared equity scheme's
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