Resealing 3/8 ISO Quick Connect Female Coupler

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Old Operator

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I have some of the above on my machine, two are leaking, have sourced some suitable O rings. Inside is both the O ring & the white nylon back up washer. Looking from the outside end the back up washer was furthest in - with the O ring nearest the open end.
If this was a ram gland it would surely be the other way round - the flat back up washer being there to prevent hyd pressure extruding the O ring through the clearance between the piston rod & the gland housing.
Has anyone got one of these to have a look in & see which order these two parts go in - the last owner of the machine did various amateur 'repairs' - so I am by no means sure he got this right.
 
Grahams

Grahams

Don't complain - suggest what's better
If you want my opinion, change them for flat face couplers. You are asking to get contamination in your system with open ends. With regards flat faced Holmbury seem to be head and shoulders above the rest in longevity.
Graham
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
and if you can't 'stretch to FFs .... those ISO As are peanuts anyway .... with covers to keep the tish out
 
wee_gus

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3/8 holmbury FF are about £30 a set and far superior to the ISO
 
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Old Operator

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Truth is it is a very old & small machine - a 5 Star Gopher as seen at base of this page http://www.oilyhands.co.uk/gopher_towable_diggers.htm These allow the drive wheel to be removed. I have sat on it for some years, it has other issues to fix. I do not want to spend too much on it till I know how viable it is going to be for either use or sale. I resented throwing the whole coupler away for what is a perished O ring. I looked into the whole 'o' ring sizing thing - % of compression or interference, & tried to identify what was there (though damaged) Got the rings from Leominster Hydraulics - sadly they have since gone out of business. My idea was to have spare rings to re seal for an instant fix - if others go.
 
doobin

doobin

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Jesus mate, I threw away a whole box of those couplers. They're f****ng useless. If you really insist they are about a fiver on eBay. you'll spend more than that getting the right o ring and pissing about.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Mogman

Mogman

What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
I’ve had this kit for years everything you need


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Old Operator

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Mog, I got some O rings a while ago, I made a ring removal tool from an old screwdriver - got the ring out - difficult to measure as the 'male' coupler part is 'oversize' (creates an interference fit) so I slid the ring gently up a morse taper end of a drill. Using an Aldi digital Vernier I got the 3/8 QF ring to be 17mm I.D. x 2.5mm thickness. This checks out with info I found on the net concerning gap width & dia, & % oversize of the male shaft. The nylon washer I have found should be nearest the open end.

The 1/4 QF takes as far as I can tell an 11.6mm I.D. x 2.5mm thick (no nylon washer present perhaps too small to need one). But this ring had a split through it - & I had a spare of this size coupler.
I did not have access to an 0 ring sizing gauge - it would be interesting to measure the sizes in your kit as a reference for future use of us all.
Maybe a hyds place would measure them in return for the info on what fits what.
Also would like to know where the kit can be bought in case I am wrong. I am about to start clearing junk from around the machine (it has been dry stored). So far I have re sealed a 3/8 - seems a good fit but we will se if it works when on the machine. The kit does show that the QF's can be re sealed. - I have 6 in total, & also a pair of flat faced on a hyd PTO - to run a jack hammer / wood splitter. Thanks anyway for the interest, would love to know if these kits can still be got.
 
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Mogman

Mogman

What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
Where are you based @Old Operator, the label on the box has long gone
Will you be going to kelsall steam fair at the weekend
 
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Old Operator

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I am based Telford Shropshire - sadly will not be going to the rally - too much on & wife has other plans anyway!
 
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Old Operator

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The O ring sizes are correct! 3/8 ISO QR = 17mm x 2.5, 1/4 QR = 11.6 x 2.5 I am now leak free & have spares for 'in the field' repairs if needed. More importantly the machine is mobile again & can be towed locally if needed (via switching some valves - makes the motors free running). Machine is dry stored but stood for 6 yrs - Honda GX 140 started 3rd pull !! I am having to wrap a rope round - as last owner caught the pull start on a low branch - money saved on couplers will buy this part (Chongda clone spare). Thread coming on Vintage page on the ongoing restoration of Gopher.

Mog - it would be interesting to borrow an 'O' ring sizer gauge & identify the rings in the kit - that way we would have a resource of knowledge on the bigger sizes - not that it affects me at present.
 
Mogman

Mogman

What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
The O ring sizes are correct! 3/8 ISO QR = 17mm x 2.5, 1/4 QR = 11.6 x 2.5 I am now leak free & have spares for 'in the field' repairs if needed. More importantly the machine is mobile again & can be towed locally if needed (via switching some valves - makes the motors free running). Machine is dry stored but stood for 6 yrs - Honda GX 140 started 3rd pull !! I am having to wrap a rope round - as last owner caught the pull start on a low branch - money saved on couplers will buy this part (Chongda clone spare). Thread coming on Vintage page on the ongoing restoration of Gopher.

Mog - it would be interesting to borrow an 'O' ring sizer gauge & identify the rings in the kit - that way we would have a resource of knowledge on the bigger sizes - not that it affects me at present.
Pm me your address (y)
 
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