Is the backhoe loader a thing of the past?

V8Druid

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Stroppymonkey said:
Like the lad that bought @doobin New Holland and tramped it back Cornwall
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Mia said:
Hello everyone 😁 . My son, Danny, was a topic of discussion back in October 2024 when he was introduced by ‘doobin’ as ‘the newest member of the Backhoe Boys club’ after purchasing the New Holland wheel digger.
Danny drove from West Sussex to Mawgan Porth in Cornwall - a journey which took a total of 13 hours 🤣 . V8Druid said ‘off his trolley’ and Storrsy said ‘He’s from Cornwall. Enough said’ . I personally liked the ‘What a champion’ comment from Gunners!
True to form Danny continues to excel in off the trolley acts and recently drove said backhoe into a raging fire in order to cut a 100m firebreak to prevent the spread of the fire. His bravery (or stupidity some might say) enabled him to access places that the 10 fire engines in attendance were unable to get to because of the steep lay of the land. Two of the heroic firefighters followed behind him constantly ‘patting him down’ enabling him to continue. One of them actually said although a dangerous act it actually made the fire more manageable. Thankfully, after several hours, the fire was under control, saving lives, homes and businesses in the local vicinity. Unfortunately the backhoe did not fair so well: the side window imploded from the heat, the brakes melted, the steering failed due to the heat, the hydraulics melted and the front bucket fell off 😱 .
A Gofundme page has been set up in the hope of raising money towards the costs of repair as Danny is extremely attached to his Backhoe and is not prepared for it to just be written off and join other wheel diggers in the sky. Should any of you fellow backhoe enthusiasts have any ideas of how to resurrect a true metal war horse with minimal cost involved then please do let me know. That backhoe not only saved Mawgan Porth but appeared to have a guardian angel on board that kept my son safe for which I am eternally grateful having witnessed the whole terrifying event!!!!!
Mia
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I don’t need one I dont need one I don’t need one I don’t need one!

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Monkeybusiness said:
It’s normal for anything on tyres coming out of JCB to be strapped (from what I see on the A500). I can understand it from a ‘Protect the paint on a brand new machine’ point of view, and I guess if done correctly it must be safe?! This isn’t a regular occurrence or they wouldn’t do it.
(But I do agree with the sentiment of chaining/blocking/securing these loads so there is no chance of movement).
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Yeh those super 3cx i put up here the other week only strapped. Most i see are. We have a big CAT place here i will have to notice what they are doing with theirs next time I see a lorry.
 
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Old Operator

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Re the Italian TBL's, I think Venieri are about the only current Italian makers. Palazanni once had a nice range, Piccini once made one & later made a former Palazanni design, Eurocomach once made a small one but no more. I often thought the concept of four equal sized wheels & centre articulation would make a loader almost as good as a tracked one along with a rear hoe that could rip the toughest ground. Sadly old age & the end of reduced tax diesel did for this dream for me, I always wanted to try one.

I do see a 'New Budget 3CX' being marketed by JCB, aimed at potential owner operators. It is not truly a budget machine as it still is a 'Sitemaster' with extending hoe, 4 in 1, & forks. I saw last week working on the Delhi hostel collapse a couple of newish looking 3CX both with std rear hoe & std front bucket & thought that is a true budget machine. If the forks were deemed needful then the std front bucket would do well on a quick attach plate, thus you could swap for a usable forks set up. (my instructor on my JCB course well over 40 years ago said never to volunteer to use the Sitemaster forks as they were dead awkward!!!) I would value a thumb on the rear hoe over a telescopic one any day of the year.
 
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I seem to remember a couple of Fai - komatsu's working on a pipeline near Bridgnorth brand new about the year 2000. These looked like the 180b with smaller wheels at the front.
The pics of the orange Fai look like a machine that was a capable all rounder. The bigger Palazzani machines could manage 25 mph on the road, hydrostatic with two working ranges plus a separate planetary hi - lo gear box that could shift on the move. This was pre the Bosh Rexroth system that allows a similar thing in another way. I understand that any hystat machine that has to start from stationary in that gear is limited to 17 mph by physics.
 
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Sadly the JCB midi CX did. I can only guess these two you mention have very large engines or possibly variable displacement motors on the drive side, that is another way round it. I looked at all the small hystat TBL's that were on the market, (about the size of the 2Cx or smaller) I could never find anything that could do 25 mph. This was before the 2Cx went hystat with the Bosch Rexroth on the go shift system & called itself the 3Cx compact. Earthworks did a nice range but these were slow, later taken over by Bobcat & then closed down. I guess the memo applies to machines with a fixed cc motor driving the axle
 
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