E393 10mm Concrete mesh

Regy53

Regy53

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Hi All,

I am using this as something hard to get through? layers of it?

the 10mm version of this, could you bolt crop it in anybody's experience? if not would a electric saw take a while to make a hole?

I am trying to secure part of a building that has no sides apart from basic cladding.

thinking, 10mm re bar mesh layered, some razor wire, 20mm plastic sheet and then wood.

thoughts :D @V8Druid for some reason i am drawn to you
 
Mogman

Mogman

What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
You can cut that with proper bolt cutters, if you get b785 mesh it has bars at 200x100 so more steel to cut,
If it was me I’d be pricing up 100mm concrete panels, won’t be getting though them in a hurry and if the building is rented and you move take them with you or just sell them;)
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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+1 for the concrete panels. Won’t be as much as you might think?
Think our last lot were in the mid £40s per meter? For 150mm panels.
They’d be a proper job and actually look decent on the inside.

You’d be some sort of hero to be bolt cutting though that mesh, but it’s do-able, but in these days of battery grinders and slitting discs, you’d be through it in no time.
 
Regy53

Regy53

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i have 12 meters to cover for a friend...

need to do it as cost effective as possible, anything used can be boxed over.
 
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Gez_lewis

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With portable tools now you can get through anything really if you've got the time.
Panels are good but a stihl saw and a sledge your soon through, battery grinder chops mesh quickly.
Shuttered concrete with a few sheets of mesh will slow someone down but your only as strong as your weakest point normally door and lock.
 
Gunners

Gunners

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What value are you trying to protect? I always think that thief's are inherently lazy and if the value of what they are trying to steal isnt enough to justify the effort they wont bother. A393 is only made of 10mm bar spaced every 200mm but is half the cost of B784. Cutting through it involves going tooled up and so would put off all but the most determined and if you are tooled up then B784 wont put up much more of a fight. The old rule of "out of sight out of mind" is a good one to follow and concrete panels would conceal whatever is in the shed but also require support and that adds cost.
Nothing is safe in this world anymore, just make whatever you have more of a pain in the arse to steal than the next mans. That's my current policy
 
Regy53

Regy53

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Luckily there is only one exposed part the rest is in a actual compound all locked up. There is a 12 meter run that is accessible.

I priced up some brick work £1350 to around 6 ft.
The mesh is circa £800 just trying to work out what’s best

There would be items of fair value in there and desirable but also big so not the sort of thing you can just take away. There will be police response alarms and sensors etc but just trying to slow them down as much as possible

That’s the run ( far wall) the rest is inside the yard
 

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Monkeybusiness

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I’d agree with concrete panels - you’d only need 4 bolted onto the inside of those posts. You’d need to come very prepared to defeat them - whatever you put up can be overcome if the scumbags decide they’re having it away.
 
doobin

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Regy53 said:
Hi All,

I am using this as something hard to get through? layers of it?

the 10mm version of this, could you bolt crop it in anybody's experience? if not would a electric saw take a while to make a hole?

I am trying to secure part of a building that has no sides apart from basic cladding.

thinking, 10mm re bar mesh layered, some razor wire, 20mm plastic sheet and then wood.

thoughts :D @V8Druid for some reason i am drawn to you
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If you're storing plant in there they'll just come through the roof, start a machine up and smash that lot straight out the way.

Concrete panels not too pricey, very easy to install and always worth money. I'd get them made up to fit between the I-beams. Once you've removed the cladding you might be able to wiggle two into each bay diagonally without having to remove the first roof bay- then just reclad down to them.
 
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Shovelhands

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Shovelhands

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Regy53 said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-PRE-STRESSED-CONCRETE-PANEL-6m-x-1m-x-150mm/112029461644?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

that I think.

I not sure what to do. Taking the cladding off would be a faff
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Concrete panels would be an easy job to put in from the inside. I’d not clip them in that particular instance, but retain them with some channel irons at each end (in the corners of the building) and use a bit of flat in the middle. Weld it to the upright so it pretrudes out in the gap between the panels in the Center of the building. Then once the panels are in, weld some flat up each side. Job done(y)
I may need to do a diagram to explain this better :D

I know you said anything used could be boxed in, but these won’t need any further dressing up, perfectly adequate how they are. Even covering up mesh has a cost, in materials and time.
A great plus point is you can lean anything against the wall and you won’t damage it, stack stuff up against it’s a so on
 
Shovelhands

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V8Druid said:
sacrifice some space inside and whack some of these against the wall in question .... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/concrete-lego-blocks/223512492952?hash=item340a61fb98:g:KyEAAOSwD8pc1yp2

what're these panels you guys are talking about .... like a sectional garage, type thing but bigger ??? :unsure:

anyone got a link or some pix please .... thinking of shed ;)
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Ideal around any building Gra, primarily for grain stores, but they are finding a home in workshops and general buildings. Great for security.
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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End of our workshop, which is a bit of a work in progress :rolleyes:, those panels have been in a while, and we’ve only just got the cladding for the end! :D
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V8Druid

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Shovelhands said:
End of our workshop, which is a bit of a work in progress :rolleyes:, those panels have been in a while, and we’ve only just got the cladding for the end! :DView attachment 6721
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so they're ordered to length are they James ... what's the ball park cost of those ... instant wall ... what're they like for fixing to inside ?
 
Shovelhands

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V8Druid said:
so they're ordered to length are they James ... what's the ball park cost of those ... instant wall ... what're they like for fixing to inside ?
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Yes you order them to length. Easy enough to cut if you need to, but if you are ordering for a specific job then it pays to get the length perfect. Iirc they were mid to late £40s per meter, + transportation. Say £50 per meter plus transport if your just working things out roughly. But I’d get a firm quote per meter, as they were a while ago.
By “fixing” I guess your talking about drilling and fixing to the inside? No different to drilling and fixing to any other concrete product (y)
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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Shovelhands said:
Ideal around any building Gra, primarily for grain stores, but they are finding a home in workshops and general buildings. Great for security.
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should've read all the posts 'fore commenting James ;) .... I like these ... a lot .... now to convince Pam :giggle:
 
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