120 rollers

[DaveDCB]

I know I’ve mentioned a 80 roller before, but for what I’ve got lined up I’m going to need a 120roller..

What’s everyone used before? Pros/cons

Local hire company runs CAT so I’ve had plenty of them on hire, they are alrite but nothing amazing.

Bomag always get strong residuals so I assume they are the best?

Had Ammanns before with no complains.. (bobcat seem to be a rebadged version?) they seem to be a mid range price?

All the asphalt gangs use Hamm so they must be a contender?

In all honestly I’m most likely just going to euro auctions to go to and buy the newest/best one they have as it’s a long term keeper, but always handy to be pre warned on any to avoid!

 

[Danny]

Rollers are always a funny thing, as realistically they hardly ever get used, cost a fortune, and when you do need them, it might only be for 1 hour. I like Bomag and own a 120-5, it's pretty bomb proof.

Have hired Hamm before, and I'm sure it didn't climb aswell as a Bomag compacting a slope

 

[Smiffy]

If it is staying in one place or being moved by a lorry I can definitely recommend going up to a 135/140. Can compact 250mm of crush in one go as opposed to 100-150mm with a 120.
But the biggest bonus is the seat slides on them so you can look down the side of the machine properly. If you have to roll up to kerb lines it's a game changer.
They are 2t heavier than a 120 but less than 200mm wider.

As for brand I'm not a fan of hamm. The dashboard controls are unclear. The fuel gage is 3 LEDs which is a bit vague and the joystick isn't as comfortable as bomag.
I have only used Hamm and bomag

 

[DaveDCB]

Rollers are indeed a funny thing, all being well I’ve got afew years of commercial units/roads/yards to build so it will be used more than usual, problem with hiring is Id rather not pay out £300+ for 1 hours work every so often.. flawed logic when spending 15k for 10 hours work I guess, might pay for itself after 10 years

I did consider a 135, they seem to be about the same money but that’s down to transport - ill measure the gap between the ramps on my low loader, see if it will safely go up!
I’ve had a 145 Ammann on hire before and it was amazing I must say! But then when I want to nip it to a site to roll in a driveway it’s abit of a pain!

 

[JD450A]

You will get a 138 bomag on a ifor wills

 

[T whiting]

I'd look for a pre dpf bomag the new ones are a electrical nightmare we seem to have fitters out to them all the time where the old ones were bombproof

I love a 138 roller but there a pain to transport legally

 

[Smiffy]

You will get a 138 bomag on a ifor wills

I don't know if 138 are better but 120's don't line up with cross members so seem to fall through the floor after a couple of journeys

 

[DaveDCB]

I don't know if 138 are better but 120's don't line up with cross members so seem to fall through the floor after a couple of journeys

That will be why the last one I had delivered was ontop of a bog mat then

 

[DaveDCB]

I'd look for a pre dpf bomag the new ones are a electrical nightmare we seem to have fitters out to them all the time where the old ones were bombproof

I love a 138 roller but there a pain to transport legally

What era was pre dpf? Anything without DPF/adblue has a big thumbs up from me!!

 

[Smiffy]

What era was pre dpf? Anything without DPF/adblue has a big thumbs up from me!!

I don't think you will get ad blue on a 120. Not a big enough engine. I don't think you get adblue until the 160's. At least nothing we have had on site. But can't remember how old anything was, can't be that old as it all comes from clee hill.

If all you are doing is aggregate then you could look for a proper single drum hobby as they are better on non bound material.

 

[DaveDCB]

Rare as they come though!
Stage v same in around 2018/2019 so i assume around that age, probs why they hold their money so well!

 

[pettsy]

I don't know if 138 are better but 120's don't line up with cross members so seem to fall through the floor after a couple of journeys

It’s a question I was going to ask as I’m considering an 80 next year but the only trailers I have is IW lm146 and a tt3017. Would it ruin either after a couple of moves?

 

[DaveDCB]

Pre 2019 all seem to be 25kw or there abouts… post 2019 are all 18.4kw! So do I assume at 18.4k(25hp) they don’t need a DPF?

 

[DaveDCB]

It’s a question I was going to ask as I’m considering an 80 next year but the only trailers I have is IW lm146 and a tt3017. Would it ruin either after a couple of moves?

Afew Scaffold boards under it wouldn’t hurt

 

[Smiffy]

It’s a question I was going to ask as I’m considering an 80 next year but the only trailers I have is IW lm146 and a tt3017. Would it ruin either after a couple of moves?

I can't remember an 80 roller ever being a problem. I only mentioned it as I have done it personally with 120's and seen it done.
Neither of those trailers will be particularly nice to load though. Rollers up for Williams ramps are sketchy as hell. I have had to meet blokes on site a few times to load and unload them as they chickened out.

Pre 2019 all seem to be 25kw or there abouts… post 2019 are all 18.4kw! So do I assume at 18.4k(25hp) they don’t need a DPF?

I think from memory it's 75hp but might be wrong.

 

[pettsy]

Above 19kw “none-road mobile machinery” needs to have a dpf. It looks like 2019 onwards for stage V emissions.

I know neither are ideal but can’t justify another trailer for the few times I’d move it. Lm is a beaver tail so fairly low and guess I could add rubber matting to ramps.

 

[doobin]

I can't remember an 80 roller ever being a problem. I only mentioned it as I have done it personally with 120's and seen it done.
Neither of those trailers will be particularly nice to load though. Rollers up for Williams ramps are sketchy as hell. I have had to meet blokes on site a few times to load and unload them as they chickened out.


I think from memory it's 75hp but might be wrong.

25hp is the cut off- after that they need treatment.

My 38hp tractor has a DPF.

 

[DaveDCB]

25hp is the cut off- after that they need treatment.

My 38hp tractor has a DPF.

That makes sense, then anything over 55kw prob needs adblue thus why dumpers are kept at that sub 55kw. Basically don’t buy anything over 2019 unless it has warrenty

 

[JD450A]

I don't know if 138 are better but 120's don't line up with cross members so seem to fall through the floor after a couple of journeys

Wouldn't know, had a couple road plates underneath too .

Roller wise for me it's a Bomag. The Hamm are as good but have more finicky electronics. Anmann are ok.

Imho I'd take a 120 over a 138 for the work we do as the bigger compaction force can be a double edged sword when doing footpaths.

 

[DaveDCB]

Think I’ll look out for a 120 Bomag with the bigger 24kw engine.. might be a gem hiding somewhere!
I seem to remember @Gunners mention the latter 18kw engines are pathetic like they are in the 3 ton dumpers!