Help please Fuse popping

V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
right have looked at it and think i found the bus bar, if its the flat rail at the top i can get to the forst nut maybe possibly the second but no chance the furthest one as its right at the back, and i think thats where the wire is connected as well so no chance removing that either.
sorry its so dusty in there but here in the south of France , everything outside gets covered in this dust
am not sure what the big plug at the front is
do you have an air compressor to give it a good blow out with a long nozzle blaster ?
where abouts in La Sud de France ? Lovely part of the world
 
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Deanofire

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do you have an air compressor to give it a good blow out with a long nozzle blaster ?
where abouts in La Sud de France ? Lovely part of the world
Yes I have a compressor and will give it a blow out when I manage to lift the cab but it's on a slope. I am just outside Perpignan in a little village I. The pyrenees on the french/spanish border
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Yes I have a compressor and will give it a blow out when I manage to lift the cab but it's on a slope. I am just outside Perpignan in a little village I. The pyrenees on the french/spanish border
yes know Perpignan area ...... have run the whole coast road a few times on my Kawi 1000 from Menton down to Argeles and vice versa, many years ago ... great siccle country ... would be down there somewhere now, if it wasn't for Mr Gaucher :mad: ... 's where I'd always planned to end up :rolleyes:
'09 was the last time I was on the med coast just outside Beziers
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Take pedals off - and some bolts with Alan keys heads holding an ally plate down,(ally plate stays I think but needs to be loose to allow canopy to lift) then undo big nuts holding canopy down front and back iirc and it tilts up ... there is a gas strut.
Might have to take tracking leavers off too.
I still have the rail off mine .... mini went a year or 2 ago , it never needed any heat anyhow so it never got sorted.
Still a bitch to get at after all that I think.
 
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Deanofire

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yes know Perpignan area ...... have run the whole coast road a few times on my Kawi 1000 from Menton down to Argeles and vice versa, many years ago ... great siccle country ... would be down there somewhere now, if it wasn't for Mr Gaucher :mad: ... 's where I'd always planned to end up :rolleyes:
'09 was the last time I was on the med coast just outside Beziers
yes its a lovely part of the world to live in especially compared to London where we used to live
 
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Deanofire

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Take pedals off - and some bolts with Alan keys heads holding an ally plate down,(ally plate stays I think but needs to be loose to allow canopy to lift) then undo big nuts holding canopy down front and back iirc and it tilts up ... there is a gas strut.
Might have to take tracking leavers off too.
I still have the rail off mine .... mini went a year or 2 ago , it never needed any heat anyhow so it never got sorted.
Still a bitch to get at after all that I think.
Thanks managed to lift the cab today
 
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Deanofire

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Right a quick update. today with the help of my friend , we managed to tilt the cab.
First we disconnected the wire from the glow plug bus bar , tried the key and it blew the 40A fuse again so no change there.
secondly we disconnected the main thick red wire to the starter solenoid and tried the key and again the fuse blew.
Now am totally out of ideas.
I will say that the new fuse blows at key position 1, you hear a quick start of the fuel pump click before you hear the fuse pop still in position 1
any ideas on this please maybe try something with the fuel pump if i can find it ?
TIA
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Right a quick update. today with the help of my friend , we managed to tilt the cab.
First we disconnected the wire from the glow plug bus bar , tried the key and it blew the 40A fuse again so no change there.
secondly we disconnected the main thick red wire to the starter solenoid and tried the key and again the fuse blew.
Now am totally out of ideas.
I will say that the new fuse blows at key position 1, you hear a quick start of the fuel pump click before you hear the fuse pop still in position 1
any ideas on this please maybe try something with the fuel pump if i can find it ?
TIA
seems to point to the pump - initially ..... have you isolated it electrically yet? ... not a dear item to replace
 
Gecko

Gecko

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Still not sure how relevant my manual is, but here is something to try.
[first - take a pic of the fuse box showing the fuses in their positions so you can put them back]

Remove fuses 1 to 6
Turn the key to position 1 and see if the 40A fuse blows.

If the 40A fuse doesn't blow, replace fuses one at a time and see what happens.
 
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Deanofire

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Still not sure how relevant my manual is, but here is something to try.
[first - take a pic of the fuse box showing the fuses in their positions so you can put them back]

Remove fuses 1 to 6
Turn the key to position 1 and see if the 40A fuse blows.

If the 40A fuse doesn't blow, replace fuses one at a time and see what happens.
This is a great idea, am gonna try this as soon as i get some more fuses today, as i have already blown my pack of 10 lol.
 
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Deanofire

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OK latest update on the fun and games.
today i disconnected the top little fuel pump and the tank fuel lifter.
Turned the key to position one again and...............blew the 40A fuse yet again. i am really out of ideas now !!!!
 
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Deanofire

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Have you located the glow plug relay yet? Assuming it’s got one and it’s not directly ignition fed?
Hi have found the relays under the ignition control panel but i tried yesterday with the glow plug bus bar disconnected and it still blew so could it still be the relay ?
TIA
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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Hi have found the relays under the ignition control panel but i tried yesterday with the glow plug bus bar disconnected and it still blew so could it still be the relay ?
TIA

My gut feeling is you’ve got a wire rubbed through and shorting to earth somewhere. But you first need to rule out all components that could also mimic this fault.
Have you traced the feed wire to the glow plugs back to a relay?
 
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