DC2 control and latching functions

Engcon UK

Engcon UK

The Noble Art of Digging
I've had a couple of forum members contact me today (You know who you are............. :ROFLMAO: ) regarding latching functions with our updated digital system which has been posted elsewhere on social media. Since a wider audience may be scratching their collective heads, here is the official answer (together with the paraphrased question :geek:)

When running something like a flail through a tilty can I have a latching button on the joystick so that I don't have to keep my finger pressed all day?

Historically (with Engcon at least),the answer has been 'no' because of the safety protocols. The danger with a latching button is that it's traditionally an isolated on/off circuit that's outside of the main tilty control range and, as such, there is a danger that it may be left on in inappropriate circumstances.

The latching function is now available on the latest version of the Microprop/ECS system (4.6.2). It’s only available with Joystick emulation or PWM (where the original machine joysticks were controlling the hammer/rotate lines, rather than a mechanical or pedal function). The function is programmed into DC2 using a tool button and a dedicated roller to set the direction and speed of the tool, which the controller then remembers so that when the button is pressed again it latches on. It’s analogous to cruise control on a car and, in the same way as if you press the brake, pressing the button again, or altering the roller will drop it out. It’s also controlled by the dead man lever.

Probably around 80% of modern diggers have this joystick control of the hammer and rotate line, although the smaller ones (and some larger CATs I believe) do still rely on double feeder valves so we can’t make it work on these. If you are unsure what you've got, the best thing is to call your dealer and ask whether your hammer and rotation circuit were originally joystick controlled (in which case we can convert it) or pedal controlled (in which case we can't - sorry)

HTH
 
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Komatsu

Well-known member
I've had a couple of forum members contact me today (You know who you are............. :ROFLMAO: ) regarding latching functions with our updated digital system which has been posted elsewhere on social media. Since a wider audience may be scratching their collective heads, here is the official answer (together with the paraphrased question :geek:)

When running something like a flail through a tilty can I have a latching button on the joystick so that I don't have to keep my finger pressed all day?

Historically (with Engcon at least),the answer has been 'no' because of the safety protocols. The danger with a latching button is that it's traditionally an isolated on/off circuit that's outside of the main tilty control range and, as such, there is a danger that it may be left on in inappropriate circumstances.

The latching function is now available on the latest version of the Microprop/ECS system (4.6.2). It’s only available with Joystick emulation or PWM (where the original machine joysticks were controlling the hammer/rotate lines, rather than a mechanical or pedal function). The function is programmed into DC2 using a tool button and a dedicated roller to set the direction and speed of the tool, which the controller then remembers so that when the button is pressed again it latches on. It’s analogous to cruise control on a car and, in the same way as if you press the brake, pressing the button again, or altering the roller will drop it out. It’s also controlled by the dead man lever.

Probably around 80% of modern diggers have this joystick control of the hammer and rotate line, although the smaller ones (and some larger CATs I believe) do still rely on double feeder valves so we can’t make it work on these. If you are unsure what you've got, the best thing is to call your dealer and ask whether your hammer and rotation circuit were originally joystick controlled (in which case we can convert it) or pedal controlled (in which case we can't - sorry)

HTH
Is it able to be retro fitted to existing micro prop DC2 units Robert, or do you need to get a new stystem/ software update?
 
Engcon UK

Engcon UK

The Noble Art of Digging
Is it able to be retro fitted to existing micro prop DC2 units Robert, or do you need to get a new stystem/ software update?
I will confirm it when I can get either Tim or Jamie's attention, Ollie, but as I understand it 🤯 it's a straight software update and a PWM card which I think is a couple of hundred pounds plus the labour (assuming I've just looked at the right part🙃)
 
JD450A

JD450A

Feral as Fk 🐾
Quite true(y). Both my old car and the Fergy35 have a hand throttle. And neither have seat belts or a green flashing thingy. Ah, for the good old days.....

You know my opinion on green flashy things.

The collective IQ of the country was higher without warning labels!
 
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Komatsu

Well-known member
And I'm still out of luck due to my pedal.... God damn I would spec a machine differently if I knew what I know now!
Gaffa tape on the roller it is then!
And all those years you pulled the tilty police about specing machines right from the go🤔😉...... looking forward, should you get a new machine, you should be covered by the update??
 
Left hooker

Left hooker

Well-known member
I have a latching peddle how do I stand with that ?
 
CPS

CPS

Well-known member
I was waiting for that Aiden 😜😜😜

Handbags at dawn it is then 🤣🤣🤣

:p :p In fact, thinking about it you could latch the hammer lines (when the tilty is removed) as far back as the old Propplus system..... so yes there's a great big swing of my Louis Vuitton :LOL::LOL::LOL:🤣🤣🤣

Hope all is well with you Robert, and looking forward to a nice Christmas break(y)
 
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Mhammer

New member
I'm having issues getting the latching function to work on my machine. I must have a setting selected wrong because it keeps saying Constant Flow blocked by safety gate. Can anyone help me out?
 

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Mogman

Mogman

What man as done, man can do, what never has,maybe
I'm having issues getting the latching function to work on my machine. I must have a setting selected wrong because it keeps saying Constant Flow blocked by safety gate. Can anyone help me out?
Yes, just open the gate🤔 but don’t let your sheep out😂😂
 
Left hooker

Left hooker

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I'm having issues getting the latching function to work on my machine. I must have a setting selected wrong because it keeps saying Constant Flow blocked by safety gate. Can anyone help me out?
What you trying to do tilty on or off🤔
 
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