Winch on a digger?

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Russell

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I've got a job where I might need to winch myself out if i get stuck. I'm thinking I'll fit it on the dozer blade. Those ears must be strong enough to drag it out some slop or up a hill?
 
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Smiffy

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Lpg Eddie on the old forum had them mounted opposite end to the blade tucked right up out the way to avoid damage
Ontop of the blade seems a bit vulnerable
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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If you are in the shite though, you want to come out blade first, IMO.
 
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Smiffy

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If you are in the shite though, you want to come out blade first, IMO.

But if you are blade first and the blade is digging in then you need to lift /pull urself with the boom which would give worse geometry than trying to lift the blade and push if you are going backwards.

But tbh I don't think the winches are really designed for self recovery more slope working
 
doobin

doobin

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I've got a job where I might need to winch myself out if i get stuck. I'm thinking I'll fit it on the dozer blade. Those ears must be strong enough to drag it out some slop or up a hill?
E10? Might as well use a tirfor winch.
 
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Russell

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I've got a 13,500lb one coming for the E10.
I know it's a bit oversized but, at a later date, I might stick it on the disco and get that stuck in some mud too.
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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But if you are blade first and the blade is digging in then you need to lift /pull urself with the boom which would give worse geometry than trying to lift the blade and push if you are going backwards.

But tbh I don't think the winches are really designed for self recovery more slope working
I will respectfully disagree. You can lift the front of the machine and pull yourself up and out of the shite, with the blade in front of you keeping it out of the shite, hopefully….
If you try that with the blade behind you then it’s an anchor.
Just my opinion, and yes I’ve been in the shite on many occasions.
 
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Smiffy

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I will respectfully disagree. You can lift the front of the machine and pull yourself up and out of the shite, with the blade in front of you keeping it out of the shite, hopefully….
If you try that with the blade behind you then it’s an anchor.
Just my opinion, and yes I’ve been in the shite on many occasions.

I think we have our wire crossed

I meant blade and boom both facing the opposite direction of travel so as you push you lift the blade out so when you initially lift the blade clear of the mud you have dipper right in for maximum lifting power

Whereas if both blade and and boom are in direction of travel to lift the blade clear and then pull yourself you have to start with the dipper fully extended so reduce the leverage to lift and already stuck machine clear of the ground.
Made worse when some well used minis struggle to lift themselves clear of the ground at any reach anyway
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I've got a 13,500lb one coming for the E10.
I know it's a bit oversized but, at a later date, I might stick it on the disco and get that stuck in some mud too.
you sure that's going to be big enough ? :LOL::LOL:
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I've got a job where I might need to winch myself out if i get stuck. I'm thinking I'll fit it on the dozer blade. Those ears must be strong enough to drag it out some slop or up a hill?
but if you're facing downhill you'd want the blade in a similar direction, surely
 
JD450A

JD450A

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Drive into Poo with blade behind you so if it starts to go south you can still get out......

Personally for a E10 I would be mounting the winch elsewhere..... Trouble with putting it on the stricken machine on a bog is you have no ability to alter the ropes trajectory.....
 
Giles

Giles

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John craig now doing big flat plates on some lpg conversion rather than dozer blade with quickly removable pins so you can leave behind if it does bog down then drag it out with bucket from firmer footing.

Diy version
Jcc pic from Eddie’s insta
 

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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Drive into Poo with blade behind you so if it starts to go south you can still get out......

Personally for a E10 I would be mounting the winch elsewhere..... Trouble with putting it on the stricken machine on a bog is you have no ability to alter the ropes trajectory.....
that makes sense, but if going downhill you'd surely want your blade downhill too :unsure:
 
JD450A

JD450A

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I've just heard someone else mention that they think EMYH is commenting about here elsewhere 🤣 must be a tough life feeling the need to comment yet lacking the courage to do so on here 🤔
 
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