Importing soil/fill

[fred]

Have my eye on bit of Land that I would like to level and raise in places by upto 1M, would be a good fair amount of muck away 200+ 8 wheeler loads.

Whats the crack with the Environment Agency, do you need permits ? Is it hard to get ?

What could I charge to dump ?

 

[Danny]

Think you would need to apply for a U1 licence depends on watercourses etc
Probably around £3 - £5 per ton for 6/8wheelers
Lord Kingsbridge will know more

 

[diggerjones]

I looked into it a while back and they were very good (environmental agency) i forget how much you can tip without a licence but was a fair bit. Think i was going to get £30-£50 a 8 wheeler load

 

[JD450A]

Up to 1000/t on a U1.

Beyond that you will need a construction license.

Your part of the world you will be lucky to get £5/t

 

[DaveDCB]

I took 1000 ton of fill(fine tailings off crusher) for two free skip hires and a days hire on a 3cx once.. wasn’t my land mind you and the customer wanted it raised for free so everyone was happy nice Saturday morning job that was!

 

[Left hooker]

U1 no good for your need as not allowed

Types of activity you cannot carry out
You cannot:

• use waste for land reclamation, for example by infilling a hollow

 

[V8Druid]

U1 no good for your need as not allowed

Types of activity you cannot carry out
You cannot:

• use waste for land reclamation, for example by infilling a hollow

what's the definition of waste though Stu??

 

[JD450A]

• use waste for land reclamation, for example by infilling a hollow

Depends on the actual reason for infilling Stu. If he is looking to level and landscape the area as a garden or flatten the site for a yard or development it's perfectly acceptable. The infilling of hollows definition is more to do with tipping topsoil in fields, or the filling of small valleys to create workable agricultural land.....

That said the E.A need to re read there own rules.... Know of two farms that are doing exactly that with the E.As consent on a U1

Grah the definition of waste is a disguarded item.

 

[fred]

thanks for the replies, i'll have a chat with EA and see what I need to do.

 

[V8Druid]

Depends on the actual reason for infilling Stu. If he is looking to level and landscape the area as a garden or flatten the site for a yard or development it's perfectly acceptable. The infilling of hollows definition is more to do with tipping topsoil in fields, or the filling of small valleys to create workable agricultural land.....

That said the E.A need to re read there own rules.... Know of two farms that are doing exactly that with the E.As consent on a U1

Grah the definition of waste is a disguarded item.

so by that definition if you are removing excess fill from one site, to re-use and improve another it is hardly being discarded ... it's a product and improving two sites in actuality / reality

 

[Smiffy]

The e a when classing waste just look which way the money goes
If you pay to get rid it's waste if you buy it in its product
This is why cow s**t and horse s**t have different classification

 

[JD450A]

so by that definition if you are removing excess fill from one site, to re-use and improve another it is hardly being discarded ... it's a product and improving two sites in actuality / reality

No that "loophole" has gone.

Anything that comes off a site by way of soil or rubble is being discarded by that site. If you view it as a product (particularly with soils/virgin stone) and you get into a very complex argument regarding UK aggregate tax.

Used to be that the Holder of the material could determine it's context. I.E a skip full of discarded shale becomes a saleable product upon collection If the owner deemed it suitable..... but it's been closed by Wrap (We Rape and Pillage) to a very complex and unobtainable set of processes to "recycle" a product that never needed processing in the firstplace.

Meanwhile contaminated material is still tipped wherever the f**k they like by rouges who can fudge paperwork!

 

[V8Druid]

The e a when classing waste just look which way the money goes
If you pay to get rid it's waste if you buy it in its product
This is why cow s**t and horse s**t have different classification

and if no money changes hands ... or both sites are your property ?

 

[Smiffy]

and if no money changes hands ... or both sites are your property ?

It's generalized as to which the normal situation would be rather than the individual circumstances

There might some exceptions but it was in some kind of publicity leaflet or similar sent out to farms a few years ago as to what they where and weren't allowed to do

 

[pettsy]

There might some exceptions but it was in some kind of publicity leaflet or similar sent out to farms a few years ago as to what they where and weren't allowed to do

Does JFDI and a big dump trailer get mentioned

 

[V8Druid]

basically it's yet another way to **** us all over for yet more money

 

[Smiffy]

Does JFDI and a big dump trailer get mentioned

I seem to remember it was the opposite all the doom and gloom of the consequences of free thinking

 

[Canal Navvy]

In answer to the OP, if your genuinely looking for cheap fill for a project then offer your site to the big boys. They can cover your arse and possibly pay a pound or two a tonne to tip.
If you're looking to compete with them by starting up in landfill then think very carefully

 

[V8Druid]

In answer to the OP, if your genuinely looking for cheap fill for a project then offer your site to the big boys. They can cover your arse and possibly pay a pound or two a tonne to tip.
If you're looking to compete with them by starting up in landfill then think very carefully

Think @fred is just looking to level a currently unusable piece of ground as cheap as poss.

 

[Brendan]

May be a stupid question, but is there any regulations for filling dips in a field, if the material being used to bring the levels up is the from the same field from an area being dug up for parking at the entrance to the field?