V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
did anyone actually see this? - 'cos I'd like to 
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6feetdown
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Just read some alcohol to go up around 30% in Wales in October
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
anyone making book on when he goes
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
It is all very well hounding Starmer in the hope he resigns, but who out of the lightly contenders would you rather have?
I think I would rather stick with an incompetent Starmer who can't get anything done than someone competent like Blair who efficiently went about wrecking the country. It is not like there is anyone in the government who actually has many sane ideas for getting us out of the current mess and why would they call a general election before they have to knowing huge numbers of their MPs will lose their seats. Better to keep their noses in the feeding trough until the bitter end.
I think I would rather stick with an incompetent Starmer who can't get anything done than someone competent like Blair who efficiently went about wrecking the country. It is not like there is anyone in the government who actually has many sane ideas for getting us out of the current mess and why would they call a general election before they have to knowing huge numbers of their MPs will lose their seats. Better to keep their noses in the feeding trough until the bitter end.
Lancs Lad
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Valid point. Imagine if we got Rayner
Lancs Lad
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Looks like he could get the push.
If he was a Tory we'd have had riots in the streets and lab MPs screaming blue murder by now.
If he was a Tory we'd have had riots in the streets and lab MPs screaming blue murder by now.
Storrsy
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Did it even happen? Looks like AI stuff tbh. Supposedly live TV yet can't find anything on you tube of it?
Lancs Lad
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Dunno but plenty else is out there he's battling for his job now
Lab MPs openly talking about him going
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
pretty sure the interviewer is a channel 5 guy
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topkit
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Quite a bit in the Telegraph today and this episode should have a lot of people very worried, Something else Mandleson allegedly did with Epstein and the the CEO of Barclays Jes Staley also ex JP Morgan, These three people worked on the following . It was insider trading!
Apparently he was instigating the sale of this with jes Staley and Epstein and guess which company purchased it ( J P Morgan) no less
As i mentioned previously Blair also had contact with Epstein, When you start to look at what is happening it all involves large amounts of money and very powerful people whos names are begining to crop up Bill Gates is another, Look at France its being run by Macron and ex investment Banker, Canada Mark Carney ex Banker, Italy Draghi is still in the background another banker, Start to look deeper all of these people are trying to take over everything and everybody, They are closing all of the banks over here so you can only get small amounts of YOUR OWN money out via a cash machine If you want a large amout you are given the fith inquisition as to why You want it. There is a pattern emerging these people are not working for us thats for sure!
Tories press Labour on Jeffrey Epstein’s part in RBS deal
Calls to disclose Lord Mandelson’s ‘role’ in $1.7bn sale of commodities business Sempra during his time as business secretaryApparently he was instigating the sale of this with jes Staley and Epstein and guess which company purchased it ( J P Morgan) no less
As i mentioned previously Blair also had contact with Epstein, When you start to look at what is happening it all involves large amounts of money and very powerful people whos names are begining to crop up Bill Gates is another, Look at France its being run by Macron and ex investment Banker, Canada Mark Carney ex Banker, Italy Draghi is still in the background another banker, Start to look deeper all of these people are trying to take over everything and everybody, They are closing all of the banks over here so you can only get small amounts of YOUR OWN money out via a cash machine If you want a large amout you are given the fith inquisition as to why You want it. There is a pattern emerging these people are not working for us thats for sure!
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
common denominator = WEF (who've kept a very low profile of late)
TiltyShaun
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Unfortunately I believe this is spoof reporting. I have seen several similar type articles of the same thing with various different subjects.
I do enjoy reading them, just seems that unfortunately they are are not true.
TiltyShaun
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Nail and hammer.
Can you imagine Angela “stamp dodger” Rayner on the global stage in her green flared trousers and sun glasses, funded by the unions.
Wes “no personality’ Streeting. Claims waiting lists are falling because they are rewriting the lists.
David “mastermind” Lammy. What can be said about him over than please God no!!
Angela “black hole” Reeves. Okay perhaps Lammy would not be that bad.
I have said since Stammer won, I hope he last the term as whoever would follow will be much worse for us all.
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topkit
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Three words "General Election Now" !!
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topkit
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So the Police raided Mandelsons two properties yesterday, That's 3 days after the news broke, He had 3 days to clear any incriminatting evidence that he may have or may not have had. Call me a sinic but that is just ridiculous, I wonder what person in power pulled the strings an told them to do the raid on Friday to give Mandleson a chance !!
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topkit
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They were talkimg on LBC on who can replace Mr Starmer, They really only have two People an neither would be any good, Angela Raynor who still has'nt got her tax problems sorted and The Unions Love or Wes Streeting who is trying to turn the NHS around without much sucess, If the Former becomes PM it will be like Shameless running the country ffs !! 
Lancs Lad
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I think he'll stick around ATM. He's thrown his chief of staff under the bus today to appease the quislings I guess.They were talkimg on LBC on who can replace Mr Starmer, They really only have two People an neither would be any good, Angela Raynor who still has'nt got her tax problems sorted and The Unions Love or Wes Streeting who is trying to turn the NHS around without much sucess, If the Former becomes PM it will be like Shameless running the country ffs !!
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Monkeybusiness
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I reckon the higher powers in the Labour Party are wishing they hadn’t stopped Andy Burnham running as an MP - he would be their only chance of having a semi-popular coherent Starmer replacement. With a bit of luck this whole episode will cull the Labour Party for quite some time once we have the chance of an election!
Lancs Lad
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Htf is starmer still in the job! That was a Tory theyd be baying for his blood and we'd have riots
But....the alternatives make me shudder . So
But....the alternatives make me shudder . So
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Old Operator
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I heard yesterday morning Reform Home Affairs spokesman Zia Yusuf on morning news about 8.40am. He seemed to have a lot of good sense to offer on the problem of illegal immigration, not least the danger of applicants claiming to be gay or victims of domestic violence so as to be allowed to stay. He said even if this is so we cannot take in the hundreds of millions worldwide that could then apply. He said we need a moratorium on immigration for some years as the UK taxpayer has been taken for a fool. Also that legal aid should be extended to UK citizens only
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002v199 - would be in the last half hour of the show.
Separate to this I hear that research by the Dutch shows that each low skill non European immigrant that turns up in their country costs on average £330,000 to the state over their lifetime (so £1 million per 3) I think the Dutch state is similar to ours, so similar costs would apply here.
I cannot see anything here that Rupert Lowe would not back, so it is splitting hairs as to who has the correct way forward.
Lately I have been watching many old UK detective shows from the '70s / '80s . It really brings home how we have lost our industrial base. Most cars were then UK made, & by chance I have seen Coles & Smith cranes, Taylor & Challen presses, BSA bikes. Found my old class photo from 1970, most kids parents worked next door to the school at a huge foundry & machine shop that made bronze bushes for makes such as Blaw Knox, Rapier, (& even huge bottom roller bushes for Cat Uddingston). Firm was Marshall Osborne, another nearby was Walker Engineering - these made sub assemblies for Blaw Knox. All long gone. I fear there is no real road back to the prosperity we once had
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002v199 - would be in the last half hour of the show.
Separate to this I hear that research by the Dutch shows that each low skill non European immigrant that turns up in their country costs on average £330,000 to the state over their lifetime (so £1 million per 3) I think the Dutch state is similar to ours, so similar costs would apply here.
I cannot see anything here that Rupert Lowe would not back, so it is splitting hairs as to who has the correct way forward.
Lately I have been watching many old UK detective shows from the '70s / '80s . It really brings home how we have lost our industrial base. Most cars were then UK made, & by chance I have seen Coles & Smith cranes, Taylor & Challen presses, BSA bikes. Found my old class photo from 1970, most kids parents worked next door to the school at a huge foundry & machine shop that made bronze bushes for makes such as Blaw Knox, Rapier, (& even huge bottom roller bushes for Cat Uddingston). Firm was Marshall Osborne, another nearby was Walker Engineering - these made sub assemblies for Blaw Knox. All long gone. I fear there is no real road back to the prosperity we once had
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