Tilting buckets.

[Storrsy]

Maybe I was just being impatient and irritable in the heat yesterday because found it a bit better today! I think yesterday I was doing alot of loading dumpers and found the material retention a bit annoying. I still think it will only be on for the right job rather than replacing a standard grader but has been handy cambering a track to fall into a ditch today.

 

[6feetdown]

Maybe I was just being impatient and irritable in the heat yesterday because found it a bit better today! I think yesterday I was doing alot of loading dumpers and found theb material retention a bit annoying. I still think it will only be on for the right job rather than replacing a standard grader but has been handy cambering a track to fall into a ditch today.

Been hotter today and hotter tomorrow apparently. I got irritated earlier when I nailed a piece of osb on the wrong way

 

[Giles]

They’re annoying as well as need to watch fittings and pipes etc in trailers and dumpers when lugging them around

 

[Storrsy]

Yup. s type hitch will minimise it to a degree but I’ve never found a tilt bucket as nice to use as a proper tiltrotator.

you could have a slightly angled hitch plate made up for it. Mine is a bolt on so would be easier. This isn’t a great photo, I actually have loads of crowd angle left.
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When I first looked at that I thought it was a mini with a 3 piece boom! The photo angle make it look smaller

 

[Stroppymonkey]

When I first looked at that I thought it was a mini with a 3 piece boom! The photo angle make it look smaller

I’m sure the Kubota I borrow has a BMC tilt grader…. But it doesn’t seem to have as much stack height .

 

[Storrsy]

Good to hear you’re pleased with the new machine , how is the noise now you’ve had it a while?

I love it tbh.
Plenty of power- the breakout isn't far behind my 3 tonner, smooth hydraulics with a good responsive slew, big track motors with long track base and well built undercarriage- can see where the extra 300kg has gone over the usual 1.9t diggers.
Lots of cab floor space and proper tracking pedals
2nd door is kinda pointless, but standard on these, the heater design is also a bit naff too as can't really aim it at windscreen but so far those are the only cons really.
They are very well made machines IMO, it's quieter than my dad's cat/ET24, I'm guessing as it's fresher the fit and finish of it all is still nice and tight . Window is a bit clattery when it's lifted over your head when tracking down a stone track but all in all they are minor things really and am chuffed with it.

 

[Storrsy]

I’m sure the Kubota I borrow has a BMC tilt grader…. But it doesn’t seem to have as much stack height .

Looks quite different from either of my BMC ones but perhaps they've changed the design.
The Wackers one is fairly heavy- all of the buckets are 3 ton buckets but with the tilt I asked them to make it narrower at 1 meter because felt less bulk would be better plus would be very heavy once full of 803 if I'd stuck with the standard 4ft one.
@doobin advice to go short dipper was spot on. Both with the grab and the tilt bucket It feels just right really. The rotating grab on my Wacker will lift a rock higher close in than the non rotating grab on my 3 tonner!

 

[AHPP]

One of those quite low build height tilt hitches (saw a nice looking Steelwrist one the other day but I’m sure others exist) and Gecko’s clever two-Ts-and-a-valve idea seems a neat way to get a lot of utility for relatively little money.

 

[AHPP]

I love it tbh.
Plenty of power- the breakout isn't far behind my 3 tonner, smooth hydraulics with a good responsive slew, big track motors with long track base and well built undercarriage- can see where the extra 300kg has gone over the usual 1.9t diggers.
Lots of cab floor space and proper tracking pedals
2nd door is kinda pointless, but standard on these, the heater design is also a bit naff too as can't really aim it at windscreen but so far those are the only cons really.
They are very well made machines IMO, it's quieter than my dad's cat/ET24, I'm guessing as it's fresher the fit and finish of it all is still nice and tight . Window is a bit clattery when it's lifted over your head when tracking down a stone track but all in all they are minor things really and am chuffed with it.

Is this a cabbed Wacker ET20 you’re talking about?

 

[Storrsy]

Is this a cabbed Wacker ET20 you’re talking about?

Yes

 

[AHPP]

Post a picture with the short dipper please. I was looking at the specs the other day and they called it something bizarre. Made it sound like a short or long boom option.

 

[bobthebuilder]

Huateng HT18 mini excavator with tilt rotation bucket and hydraulic breaker attachment https://share.google/6nvDItLARsMRhITof

 

[Storrsy]

Post a picture with the short dipper please. I was looking at the specs the other day and they called it something bizarre. Made it sound like a short or long boom option.

Theres the short dipper which is what I have at 1050mm or the long dipper which is 1250mm the ET20 and 24 have exactly the same arm/dipper but the ET18s is smaller

 

[Storrsy]

Here you go @AHPP. Id recommend the short dipper. I hardly notice the difference in reach and it still has a decent grading envelope. I tried a 2 ton Volvo with a short dipper felt awful to grade with , rather like Jeremy Beadles hand.

 

[AHPP]

Cheers. Yep. I’m starting window shopping for a two tonne ish machine. Will want to handle wood and stones with it. Probably thumb (against ripper, rake or bucket) at first and then maybe grab. Have already established short dipper essential from using hire and client machines with excessively long ones. Drove past what looked like an E19 on a trailer the other day and the dipper stood out a mile as being mega long compared to doobin’s.

A mate has a Wacker 24 or 26 with VDS. He loves it.

 

[CPS]

I’m sure the Kubota I borrow has a BMC tilt grader…. But it doesn’t seem to have as much stack height .

Thats a cangini tilt bucket

 

[Storrsy]

Cheers. Yep. I’m starting window shopping for a two tonne ish machine. Will want to handle wood and stones with it. Probably thumb (against ripper, rake or bucket) at first and then maybe grab. Have already established short dipper essential from using hire and client machines with excessively long ones. Drove past what looked like an E19 on a trailer the other day and the dipper stood out a mile as being mega long compared to doobin’s.

A mate has a Wacker 24 or 26 with VDS. He loves it.

Do you need expanding tracks? There isn't much difference in price between a ET20 and an ET24. The 24 must have different pump settings because it puts out a bit more breakout and dipper force, the undercarriage is really robust on a 24 too with better ground clearance. Id of preferred to have a 24 but thought as I have a few 3 tonners anyway the 20 keeps the fleet more versatile but if it was my only machine I'd go 24.

 

[AHPP]

It's almost certainly going to be my only digger. Still have the Skidster. Will probably get a small ish tractor and/or a larger loader in the fullness of time.

Do I need expanding tracks? I don't know. I don't want them because it's moving parts down where they can get damaged but I'd tolerate them if I thought they'd spin money more easily. Inshallah, I'm off to live in Upland-Buttfuck-Nowhere in the next year or two. Digger would mainly be for my own scratching around renovating, odds of walling and drainage etc, firewood and milling but I'd certainly want to be the local man-who-can for all the other rural residential and farm bits. Gut feeling is I don't think I'd need to narrow down but I'd have to look at the sorts of properties I'd want to work at with a quoting head on to be sure.

 

[doobin]

It's almost certainly going to be my only digger. Still have the Skidster. Will probably get a small ish tractor and/or a larger loader in the fullness of time.

Do I need expanding tracks? I don't know. I don't want them because it's moving parts down where they can get damaged but I'd tolerate them if I thought they'd spin money more easily. Inshallah, I'm off to live in Upland-Buttfuck-Nowhere in the next year or two. Digger would mainly be for my own scratching around renovating, odds of walling and drainage etc, firewood and milling but I'd certainly want to be the local man-who-can for all the other rural residential and farm bits. Gut feeling is I don't think I'd need to narrow down but I'd have to look at the sorts of properties I'd want to work at with a quoting head on to be sure.

Anything of a vintage you want to be looking at for grabs etc will have expanding tracks.

 

[Storrsy]

It's almost certainly going to be my only digger. Still have the Skidster. Will probably get a small ish tractor and/or a larger loader in the fullness of time.

Do I need expanding tracks? I don't know. I don't want them because it's moving parts down where they can get damaged but I'd tolerate them if I thought they'd spin money more easily. Inshallah, I'm off to live in Upland-Buttfuck-Nowhere in the next year or two. Digger would mainly be for my own scratching around renovating, odds of walling and drainage etc, firewood and milling but I'd certainly want to be the local man-who-can for all the other rural residential and farm bits. Gut feeling is I don't think I'd need to narrow down but I'd have to look at the sorts of properties I'd want to work at with a quoting head on to be sure.

Yeah sounds similar to me and mainly rural work/properties. I really only put the tracks in maybe 3 times a year. The only additional benefit is that they are quite low to the ground for hopping in and out of if you work on your own a lot. if it's your only machine you'd be better getting what suits the majority and just hiring in a narrowed access machine when/if required. The ET24 has really thick chunky tracks, and the undercarriage is more like a 2.8 tonners in terms of build. What I found when borrowing my dad's was that at 1400mm it's surprising where they still fit because you don't have the bulky upper body like a proper 2.8t so if squeezing through a small gate or path you can be tilted over a bit and the body still won't foul the obstacle.