Auto lubes on Excavators?

CPS

CPS

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Anyone run an auto lube on there excavator out of interest?
 
Grahams

Grahams

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I don’t currently, but had it on my Volvo duck. In my opinion one of the best add ons ever if you are buying new and intending to keep it. I had about 8000 hours on it and no noticeable wear in any of the pins or bushes. I think it must be a combination of everything getting lubed at the right intervals, coupled with it being in different positions when it gets a squirt so it makes sure there is lube all round everything. You know what it is like when you manually lube, the machine tends to be in the same position every time so you can reach.
 
JD450A

JD450A

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Just a general question really... I see more and more excavators fitted with them lately!

They are becoming more and more popular, and more reliable as i'm lead to understand. Know of a friend who's whole fleet is running them, works well for him. However the issue is when they wrong, then it doesn't get noticed until it's too late.
 
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Komatsu

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Had the remote system on this machine, where there are just 2 grease points which do the whole top half of the machine, with 2 manifolds which allow you to put a bit more in to a pacific pin if needed, but took it off, not a fan of them at all. Can see why fleets have them, but as Rory said, when they go wrong it’s to late. Don’t buy having it the same position etc etc,....know a lad who had a hydradig and “stuck to the book for greasing”....something like once every 500 hours!!!......pins and bushes shot to death!! My first machine had 10,000 hrs on with no noticeable wear on pins and the rest. You have to get out on a duck anyway to do the under carriage. All so by getting out, you get to give the machine a bit of a once over, checking for any rubbing pipes etc, lose brackets etc.
 
JD450A

JD450A

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Had the remote system on this machine, where there are just 2 grease points which do the whole top half of the machine, with 2 manifolds which allow you to put a bit more in to a pacific pin if needed, but took it off, not a fan of them at all. Can see why fleets have them, but as Rory said, when they go wrong it’s to late. Don’t buy having it the same position etc etc,....know a lad who had a hydradig and “stuck to the book for greasing”....something like once every 500 hours!!!......pins and bushes shot to death!! My first machine had 10,000 hrs on with no noticeable wear on pins and the rest. You have to get out on a duck anyway to do the under carriage. All so by getting out, you get to give the machine a bit of a once over, checking for any rubbing pipes etc, lose brackets etc.

I don't honestly get why the individual clustered nipples aren't adequate for everyone. Volvo Had it nailed as far as i'm concerned. Cluster of 5 for the main boom up opposite the cab, two on the bottom of main rams + Slew ring, then a cluster of 3 on the dipper and your bucket pins.

Electric Grease gun, takes about 2mins to hammer over a 20t excavator. Job done.
 
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Komatsu

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I don't honestly get why the individual clustered nipples aren't adequate for everyone. Volvo Had it nailed as far as i'm concerned. Cluster of 5 for the main boom up opposite the cab, two on the bottom of main rams + Slew ring, then a cluster of 3 on the dipper and your bucket pins.

Electric Grease gun, takes about 2mins to hammer over a 20t excavator. Job done.
That was the same the same on the duck, but with one at the back of the cab for the main boom and one on the dipper. I actually took one apart to see how much grease actually goes through, and the vein it goes through was only about the thickness of a piece of string, not sure if I put the pictures up somewhere......not as posh as you with the electric grease gun😱, but yeh, 3/4 minutes to go all over the top of the machine, I can live with that.
 
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DaveDCB

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Had the remote system on this machine, where there are just 2 grease points which do the whole top half of the machine, with 2 manifolds which allow you to put a bit more in to a pacific pin if needed, but took it off, not a fan of them at all. Can see why fleets have them, but as Rory said, when they go wrong it’s to late. Don’t buy having it the same position etc etc,....know a lad who had a hydradig and “stuck to the book for greasing”....something like once every 500 hours!!!......pins and bushes shot to death!! My first machine had 10,000 hrs on with no noticeable wear on pins and the rest. You have to get out on a duck anyway to do the under carriage. All so by getting out, you get to give the machine a bit of a once over, checking for any rubbing pipes etc, lose brackets etc.
Spot on that Ollie, amazing what you notice when greasing, plus it does you good to get out and stretch your legs! ( too many ops just sit and vegetate all day!)
 
Engcon UK

Engcon UK

The Noble Art of Digging
Interestingly, all of our kit (ncluding the EC-Oil blocks) are prepped for auto lube as standard (I think Rototilt are as well @CPS ?). It's a Scandi/European spec that doesn't seem to have made it over here yet.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

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as said ....... fine whilst functional ..... one or two blocked lines and you might as well not have it at all ...... and not getting around the machine you won't notice 'til it's way too late .... if you're gonna walk around checking everything is getting lubed, you might as well lube as you go anyway and be 110% certain it's getting done :rolleyes: (y)(y)
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Interestingly, all of our kit (ncluding the EC-Oil blocks) are prepped for auto lube as standard (I think Rototilt are as well @CPS ?). It's a Scandi/European spec that doesn't seem to have made it over here yet.
be interesting to know just how well they function in their sub zero conditions out there ..... :unsure: :rolleyes: ... the tilty is a looooooong way from the pump and if pressure reg.s aren't set right elsewhere, at the closer points, I can't see a lot getting that far from the source, or the manifolds .... just gonna escape at points of least resistance :(
 
Canal Navvy

Canal Navvy

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I like a grease round while the machine warms up, part of the periodic checks. Still stick with the old fashioned manual grease gun...... think feeling it go in tells me what's going on. I'm using blue/red/brown grease cartridges in order..... definitely know it's getting through.
It's always good to get the machine back to base on the wash down for a thorough check and lube too 😁
 
Engcon UK

Engcon UK

The Noble Art of Digging
be interesting to know just how well they function in their sub zero conditions out there ..... :unsure: :rolleyes: ... the tilty is a looooooong way from the pump and if pressure reg.s aren't set right elsewhere, at the closer points, I can't see a lot getting that far from the source, or the manifolds .... just gonna escape at points of least resistance :(
When I'm asked about greasing I generally say once a day at the end of the shift. That way everything is warm and it's easier to get the grease round.
 
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Smiffy

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I use to operate a large jenz green waste shredder with auto lube
Some of the bearings where obviously on a far higher greasing regime than excavator pins so if a pipe burst near the beginning of a shift the mess you could find was unbelievable especially if it was above a spinning component
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
When I'm asked about greasing I generally say once a day at the end of the shift. That way everything is warm and it's easier to get the grease round.
assuming you have any control over timing with an auto system Robert ?? :rolleyes: :unsure:
 
Quattromike

Quattromike

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, I can't see a lot getting that far from the source, or the manifolds .... just gonna escape at points of least resistance :(
I think the manifolds on the greasing manifolds have a volume check valve type setup in them, and you can have different volumes at each pipe. As in it goes in sequence when the supply port gets grease each pipe gets a set volume of grease and then closes and the next pipe gets and so on. So even if one pipe is burst or no resistance it still greases each pipe in order.
That's my experience of the anyhoo
 
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Lynchy

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Not 360 but was foreman fitter in quarry with 2x cat 980 with auto lube,usual problems with bucket link hoses rocks,but worked ok,they had same two drivers on most of the time so that makes a difference,rest of mobile plant wasn't auto but had no problem with that either,was quite old school place n lads mostly from same village n took care of gear even with it working double shifts
 
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