Mini excavator 3.5 tons Hitachi zx33u

[atrutilaj]

Hello guys!
I was looking to buy a new mini excavator.
Was thinking of Kubota u27 and bobcat e27z.
The price for this machines are like 40k.
Some days ago I receive a very good offer from Hitachi.
43k for a zx33u,a 3.5 tons machine.It also have aircon and come with 3 buckets in this price.
I don’t have a buget for the 3.5 ton Kubota or bobcat,so I need to chose between 2.7 from this brands or 3.5 from hitachi.
I will use the mini excavator for sewer excavations and gas network excavations.
Some friends are telling me that the 2.7 tons mini is not enough for doing this job.They pushing me to buy a 3.5 one.Sure,the transportation will be more complicated.
The size of this machine is nearly the same with the 2.7 tons,so there is no problem when doing some jobs on private property’s.
Are they right?
What are your thoughts on hitachi mini excavators? Is anyone own one?
Thank you guys

 

[CPS]

Go for the hitachi

 

[doobin]

You'd need to look closely at the specs, in particular dig depth and breakout force.

Many of the 'bigger' 2.7 tonnes share the same engine/pump with their bigger brothers- Bobcat E27 and E34 for example. There will be less in it than you think. The Hitatch is 18kw, the same power as an E27. Bugger all difference in bucket breakout- Hitatch 27.2kn, Bobcat 26.5kn. Arm crowd force on Bobcat actually slightly greater than HItatchi. See attached screenshots. You'll gain an extra 284mm of dig depth- do you need this? For me I'd see no reason to incur extra transport costs but I'm not doing your kind of work and rarely dig to full depth with my E27.

If you can do 90% of what you need to do with a 2.7t and move it yourself, I'd get that and hire in a larger machine when needed. Transport on a lorry will soon add up for a larger machine, unless most of your jobs are for long periods of time in one place. If you do small private 1 or 2 day jobs, the lorry transport will make you uncompetetive before you start. I'll often do two days with a 2.7t rather than 1 day with my 9t as lorry transport costs me £300 plus vat for a short round trip locally.

I'd be looking at what size machines your competitors are using. Do they all run larger machines despite the cost of a lorry?

And push Bobcat harder on price. Tell them you can get the Hitatchi for 43k, so what will they do you on the equivalent E34?

Hitatchi are nice machines, and run high hours well. Just a bit basic for me- no option for second aux lines on the left joystick on a 2.7t rules them out for me.

 

[Smiffy]

You'd need to look closely at the specs, in particular dig depth and breakout force.

Many of the 'bigger' 2.7 tonnes share the same engine/pump with their bigger brothers- Bobcat E27 and E34 for example. There will be less in it than you think. The Hitatch is 18kw, the same power as an E27. Bugger all difference in bucket breakout- Hitatch 27.2kn, Bobcat 26.5kn. Arm crowd force on Bobcat actually slightly greater than HItatchi. See attached screenshots. You'll gain an extra 284mm of dig depth- do you need this? For me I'd see no reason to incur extra transport costs but I'm not doing your kind of work and rarely dig to full depth with my E27.

If you can do 90% of what you need to do with a 2.7t and move it yourself, I'd get that and hire in a larger machine when needed. Transport on a lorry will soon add up for a larger machine, unless most of your jobs are for long periods of time in one place. If you do small private 1 or 2 day jobs, the lorry transport will make you uncompetetive before you start. I'll often do two days with a 2.7t rather than 1 day with my 9t as lorry transport costs me £300 plus vat for a short round trip locally.

I'd be looking at what size machines your competitors are using. Do they all run larger machines despite the cost of a lorry?

And push Bobcat harder on price. Tell them you can get the Hitatchi for 43k, so what will they do you on the equivalent E34?

Hitatchi are nice machines, and run high hours well. Just a bit basic for me- no option for second aux lines on the left joystick on a 2.7t rules them out for me.

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On paper there isn't much in it but having driven the Hitachi in both 27 and 33 form the the 33 is a different beast. The weight makes a lot of difference and everything is more substantial which equates to a fair amount more grunt. I don't know about other brands but the 33 also then introduces auto idle Aircon a better dash and radio and marginally better cab. The only other machine I have driven this size is Kubota which isn't as substantial. I think the Kubota 3t is an upscaled 2.7 where as I think the Hitachi shares components with the 3.8t machine.
the standard u27 doesn't come with track pedals and the Hitachi will be a lot more planted than that. I haven't driven the bobcat so I can't compare but judging from the general consensus on this forum I think it would be a closer run thing between the bobcat and Hitachi.

 

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