Mini digger purchase

[Smiffy]

There is a lot of clowns on all of the cpcs and CSCS sites. Most want top money for nothing and not willing to do anything but sit in the seat. Same for the labourer sites bitch and moan when the agencies offer 11-12.50 then when adds up for 15+ no work shy idiot applies

The plant operator pages are hilarious. Problem is these are real people that actually have the same mentality once they get on site. The attitude is unbelievable. And they can't start before 8 and knock of at 3 and need a company van and need to use it at weekends for personal use. And in return they won't grease it won't get out and help won't dig the tracks out.

 

[GazCro]

The plant operator pages are hilarious. Problem is these are real people that actually have the same mentality once they get on site. The attitude is unbelievable. And they can't start before 8 and knock of at 3 and need a company van and need to use it at weekends for personal use. And in return they won't grease it won't get out and help won't dig the tracks out.

It's ok though because those who think they are above the job are the first to be sat at yam when the pinch comes.

 

[bobthebuilder]

The plant operator pages are hilarious. Problem is these are real people that actually have the same mentality once they get on site. The attitude is unbelievable. And they can't start before 8 and knock of at 3 and need a company van and need to use it at weekends for personal use. And in return they won't grease it won't get out and help won't dig the tracks out.

unemployable then

 

[GazCro]

Not many areas getting the rate you or doobin have been getting.

It's all area dependant, some will see a micro out for 200 and others 300+

Here's the thing if you base ur money on the machine unless there's a glut of work in the area and no one to do it you'll be dragged down to what everyone else is charging. I don't care whether I'm on micro or 9 ton rates the same (plus diesel on top) cos it ain't just the digger you're getting it's me on it and all the other gear that comes with me (cat genny levels etc).
In an ideal world you need to have some knowledge of everybody else's job on site that you may be working in with or doing work which they will be following on from. Rather than laying out a load of money you'd be better off getting some experience working for someone else first.

 

[Gunners]

after ALL your costs, etc.? ...
most them boys carry a bag of tools to the job ...
not knocking anyone Ollie, just thought that it was an interesting 'report' ...

Yes! I'm not sure I would want to pay myself to run a business for any less? Not now its established at least. Granted it wasn't always that way. As the business owns and pays for all the tools, transport, and fuel to site, I'd say I'm actually probably up on the guy who's had to buy a sprit level and a trowel.
Except for the hours.....
I work many many more hours than the regular trade guy - which when you equate to an hourly rate puts me well behind no doubt.
But the business also makes profit... which I could choose to take as extra wage if I wanted to so....
Watch this space for my new Ferrari coming soon

And I know you wouldn't get out of bed for £50, I wasn't implying you would, but back in 05 I did for a couple of years. But think those rates are gone for good now - and rightly so. However the skilled guys I was with were on just over double that. So with labourers on £100/day now (if you're any good) then seems right the skilled tradesman should be on upwards of £200/day.
Bad people are not improved by more money - the fact that they go on facebook/ linkedin to complain and or show off about what they will or wont do is very funny and I let Rory rip into and educate them on the facts of life. But as has already been pointed out, they are the first ones looking for a job now.

most machine drivers won't get out of bed for less than 250 a day and a go on the bosses wife.

@Smiffy Can you forward the details of this job please, could do with an extra smile in the mornings

 

[DaveDCB]

To be fair I used to have different rates for different bits of kit. now all my gear costs roughly the same and give or take uses similar fuel L per hour I just have the same rate for everything, but in fairness my work has changed vastly over the last 5 years, mainly because I don’t really do a lot for anyone else at the moment!

 

[Smiffy]

@Smiffy Can you forward the details of this job please, could do with an extra smile in the mornings

I keep asking but they keep telling me as a lowly npors operator I have to be content with half a Mars bar and a look at the titty calender in the canteen.

But don't worry one day I'll be able to get my cpcs card when I've saved up all my pennies.

 

[Brendan]

So those with a micro/1.5t and a 3t both machines out for the same rate?

@Gunners can't even get labourers these days for £100, it's a joke. Even the most useless, lazy tool still want more than that and to top it off they don't even drive. It's unbelievable really, these guys are mid to late 20's no driving licenses and no interest and it's the same for near enough every labourer. Yet my mate has two apprentices, both shortly finishing level 2 in brickwork/carpentry yet both not only have licenses but cars. Fair enough they are living with parents but they get apprentice wages.

 

[Giles]

This is a Rory windup isn’t it? No experience of digging or construction industry going to buy a mini digger and what look at it on the drive?

 

[GazCro]

This is a Rory windup isn’t it? No experience of digging or construction industry going to buy a mini digger and what look at it on the drive?

They'll need a spill kit if it's a new Bobcat

 

[Smiffy]

This is a Rory windup isn’t it? No experience of digging or construction industry going to buy a mini digger and what look at it on the drive?

It's only one step further than the people the training companies convince a week course makes you an operator.

 

[Storrsy]

You call it negativity, I call it reality. Tomateo Tomato...... |Give it 12 months the market will be interesting to say the least.

You said that last year

 

[Jimoz]

interesting article in construction index this morning https://www.theconstructionindex.co...tion-labour-rates-edge-close-to-1000-per-week

" Construction labour rates edge close to £1,000 per week "

would be going some to earn this sort of level, after costs, with a mini digger - or much else
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Interesting pic druid wheres it from? I would say its not too far off the average

 

[6feetdown]

Looks ok https://www.lbfsales.co.uk/inventor...&accountcrmid=19879452&settingscrmid=19879452

 

[Nick...]

Rates in my area ,south norfolk are dropping.mostly to around £120 day and lots of people being laid off,know of the odd biggish firm,maybe 10/15 staff with nothing on the books after Xmas.talking about self employed
nick...

 

[Bob]

Biggest problem I can see in the future is a Labour government in the next 2 years and we go into E U free trade area and open the immigration gates wide open to all eu building workers like they did in 2005 and all construction wages collapsed

 

[Smiffy]

Biggest problem I can see in the future is a Labour government in the next 2 years and we go into E U free trade area and open the immigration gates wide open to all eu building workers like they did in 2005 and all construction wages collapsed

The workers that want to be here are already here. The people that are going to be coming in under a labour government will be the ones with no intention of working.

 

[Jimoz]

Out of 7 joiners on the job I'm on only 1 English guy. Out of the dryliners I think every one is Lithuanian or Romanian. Theyre mostly nice guys buy its a bit depressing

Biggest problem I can see in the future is a Labour government in the next 2 years and we go into E U free trade area and open the immigration gates wide open to all eu building workers like they did in 2005 and all construction wages collapsed

 

[Smiffy]

Out of 7 joiners on the job I'm on only 1 English guy. Out of the dryliners I think every one is Lithuanian or Romanian. Theyre mostly nice guys buy its a bit depressing

I work with loads of eastern Europeans and don't mind really. I prefer the ones courteous enough to speak English around me. The albanion ganger is terrible. Fortunately his 2 ground workers translate especially if he is trying to be rude without you knowing, which is hilarious.

 

[Furniss]

They are all bloody French round here