diggerjones
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
wish I'd known about them for the side of our drive ..... been a bloody sight easier than laying 1200, 9" hollowsAnyone used them for concrete retaining walls. Got a job to price with them. Made in @Mogman townThe title of your page.
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and massively faster ..... how do they compare £ for £ Dylan? .. anyone know what 9" hollows are ATM ? .. were £1.02 a block in 2012 , delivered ... two truck loads
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Smiffy
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Anyone used them for concrete retaining walls. Got a job to price with them. Made in @Mogman townThe title of your page.
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An engineer we do a lot of jobs for loves them. One job we did they where everywhere.
diggerjones
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Don't know but because they are a recognised block for retaining ground they should be goodwish I'd known about them for the side of our drive ..... been a bloody sight easier than laying 1200, 9" hollows
GazCro
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Work out expensive up here as they are not made nearby but 9" hollows are.wish I'd known about them for the side of our drive ..... been a bloody sight easier than laying 1200, 9" hollows
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
and probably pricey with it
....... at 20kgs a block I'd not want to be lifting them head height over re-bars for long
diggerjones
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Ha. Remember this one and I've still got the graband probably pricey with it
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
diggerjones
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Think its only 5 foot. Plus i could sit on the ground above with digger and grab
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
still have the problem of avoiding the rebars
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Smiffy
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and probably pricey with it
Lads I worked with only did 1-3ft of bar out the foundations brought the wall up level then more rebar down extending another 3ft and work off scaffold. So never lifting that high. Or indeed build the wall then post the bars in through the top. But I suppose it depends what the engineer specs for the overlap on extending bars
diggerjones
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Think if i used the grab, if sitting behind and above i would grab block at the back and slide it over rebar, rebar being infront of grab. But never worked with them but who knows.
No quicker with grab, just easier
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Matt
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We used them for a big retaining wall this time last year. They are brilliant once you get the reinforcing set correctly. Our drawings were for bars at 133mm intervals so it took a bit of time and wasn’t easy threading them over. Think you would struggle to thread them over with a machine to be honest. We had 1m overlaps that had to be tied so we always had 2m to reach over.
Once you get the hang of them though they fly up. You are supposed to use a RC32/40 10mm Aggregate concrete pumped in as it goes off so quickly and avoids blowouts, but you might get away with normal concrete if you went slowly. We poured in 1m stages as the wall was so long and high.
Much easier and quicker than a traditional retaining wall would definitely recommend
Once you get the hang of them though they fly up. You are supposed to use a RC32/40 10mm Aggregate concrete pumped in as it goes off so quickly and avoids blowouts, but you might get away with normal concrete if you went slowly. We poured in 1m stages as the wall was so long and high.
Much easier and quicker than a traditional retaining wall would definitely recommend
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Brendan
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Did one a couple of years ago and meant to go back and extend the wall. Had a quote last year from anderton they were just under £50 m2. You can't buy direct so have to get through a builders merchant you make a percentage for doing sweet fa.
If you can get the steel premade or get a price, I didn't have the space to get a larger machine in and lift in pieces, so ended up having to make the steel up. Off the top of my head was sheets of 393 cut in half with 90mm high u bars each side every 200mm and L to match one side. First and last steel had 100mm in from end as well.
Wall was only around 1.6m high so was done in two hits with the vertical bars, the bars have to be tied so you couldn't build the wall then drop them down.
Bed your first course down and the rest are dry laid with horizontal steel
Would not try to grab them and lay them that way, be quicker to just do it by hand
If you can get the steel premade or get a price, I didn't have the space to get a larger machine in and lift in pieces, so ended up having to make the steel up. Off the top of my head was sheets of 393 cut in half with 90mm high u bars each side every 200mm and L to match one side. First and last steel had 100mm in from end as well.
Wall was only around 1.6m high so was done in two hits with the vertical bars, the bars have to be tied so you couldn't build the wall then drop them down.
Bed your first course down and the rest are dry laid with horizontal steel
Would not try to grab them and lay them that way, be quicker to just do it by hand
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DaveDCB
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Yep used them along time ago, they take a lot of concrete if your mixing by hand.. don’t do that get ready mix/pumpAnyone used them for concrete retaining walls. Got a job to price with them. Made in @Mogman townThe title of your page.
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diggerjones
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Thanks for all the input guys. Looks a good system
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DaveDCB
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just to add, visited the property which we used them on must be 20yrd ago and they are still standings, no movement or cracks etc 
diggerjones
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Thats brave. Not sure I'd want to revisit some of the work i did 20 years agojust to add, visited the property which we used them on must be 20yrd ago and they are still standings, no movement or cracks etc
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6feetdown
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Had to break out an old bank vault wall approx 5m x 2.4 high years ago. Similar system but they also had in effect coil springs in each square of the block, all heavy rebar took 2 of us 5.5 days with a mini digger and pecker to do the job an absolute pig. Oh and broke a chisel for said breaker new was £80 then
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